1Password 8 will be electron, subscription only, and no longer support local vaults

This is where I have landed too for now. Aside from the trust, I haven’t found anything better than 1Password.

PS I’m really enjoying your blog!

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Basically yeah. I believe it’s the same engine powering the new Outlook view (that I’m not yet using :wink: )

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I wouldn’t be able to give up on 1Password. First the hassle of transporting my some 900 entries (not just passwords) from the 1Password to iCloud would be mind-wreaking.

What are you using instead of TextExpander now?

Indeed! But, if it is any consolation, I have nearly 3,000 items in PW! :upside_down_face: Everything from PW (a different one for every login), software license numbers, serial numbers, sensitive personal documents, credentials, you name it. If it needs protecting, it is in PW. I am, however, over 12 months beginning after Monterey is released, going to migrate PW and secured notes to Keychain. Other documents I’m going to import into DT as an encrypted database. Although this solution in someways is less elegant than using 1Password, it will work fine over time and I save yet another subscription.

As to a TE replacement, I’m using Alfred Snippets on my MBP. I seldom need long snippets when using the iPad so I have 40+/- text replacements that I use on all devices. A simple example is my text replacement “:please”, which returns, “Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional information.” I also use Templates in Obsidian. Finally, I have a few large snippets of text stored in both Apple Notes and Drafts that I can quickly copy and paste where needed.

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Where did you hear that?

I’m not @Bmosbacker I’m in the looking at moving over 2000 items into something else. I also have lots of stuff in there that is not a login or password from secure notes etc. Up until my data loss of imported documents in DEVONThink I was considering moving them into an encrypted database but I’ve decided against that. Since I’m not using any cloud service with Obsidian I ammoving all those notes into it into a specific folder.

My TE replacement is typinator. I have large text segments (standard response to someone wanting to buy sheep for example) as notes in Obsidian.

I had thought I’d move out to Datavault as my 1PW replacement but there has been no development in over a year and my trial import into it from 1Password did not go really well with a lot of cleanup required. So I’m looking at KeePass with probably Strongbow as a client.

Local vaults is a mandatory requirement for me in any security system. I can live with lots of other hassle but I must have my secure data under my compelte control.

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Hi,

Another alternative : Codebook from Zetetic : https://www.zetetic.net/
I’ve been using it since 2013 on 2 Macs and 2 iPads. Only with local sync over WIFI,
but I also beta tested Google and Dropbox as alternative repositories. Works also on Windows.
I found it as a recommendation on a security site. Not offering all bells and whistle as 1Password yet, such as family vault, but it’s enough for me and my partner. You need to read the support pages to understand how it works and avoid mistakes but that kind of software gets complex when you have hundreds of passwords.
Bye

Indeed, you are far far smarter! :grin:

Which is why I have a question for you. I too have some lingering concerns about DT. But I can’t think of a better alternative for securing sensitive documents unless I once again utilize a propriety app like 1P.

One of the things I’ve just discovered (unless I’m must missing it) is that one can only export secured notes in 1P one at a time to create separate documents or one can select “all” for export but this creates a single file with all of the information from each individual note in that single file.

I want a system where I can easily manage and secure multiple documents in bulk if/as needed.

As to PWs, those are easy to export as a CSV file and open in a spreadsheet app.

Any advice on how (app) best to secure individual notes and PDFs of important documents?

Why not use something like Cryptomator? Creates an encrypted blob on your cloud provider of choice and has an iOS app. Is open source and has been audited (although not sure how recently). Can basically store anything you want right on top of iCloud…

I think I’m not understanding the “securing” that you’re getting from DT. Are you saying they’re secure because the sync is encrypted? Or because you’re using some sort of access control in DT?

Because at some basic level, DT is just a collection of files on a disk. And if there isn’t security on the individual PDF, ultimately there’s no security on the file “at rest”.

DEVONthink does have an option for encrypting the database on disk on macOS.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!

Never heard of it; I’ll check it out! Thanks for the tip!

My import from 1Password to Strongbox (only a couple of hundred items) is requiring a lot of cleanup but I did not follow this advice which may have produced better results.

Have they made any statements about maintaining compatibility with 1P7 in future iOS/iPad versions?

Based on their explanations of why they’re not doing local vaults anymore, I strongly suspect that 1P7 backwards-compatible support isn’t going to be a thing for very long.

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Isn’t it also possible to put the database on an encrypted sparsebundle?

@commonman @SuperTachyon the mobile apps will remain as they are. The new v8 mobile apps will be a different app. Therefore, you can continue to use v7 on all platforms. Although, with time, they will have issues because once v8 is released, I doubt these will get much attention, if at all.

Are we still talking about 1Password? What would the benefit of that be?

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Updated plan: move all my passwords into Safari’s password manager, and MFA codes out of any password manager and into an app called Step Two. I tried Secrets, Minimalist, and Elpass, and while they all look nice there were things about each of them that I did not find appealing, or to be better than Apple’s built-in password manager. But, from time to time I still need to grab MFA codes outside of a web browser, so having a dedicated app for that makes sense.

Documents to DEVONthink, notes to locked Apple Notes, and that should about do it.

Edit: Oh, and research to Craft. Loving Craft so far.