Here’s a link to the product lead at 1password discussing developing a secure electron based app if anyone is interested. Discusses how they developed the Linux app (2 months ago and obviously pre-announcement).
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That screenshot was almost assuredly from an upgrade path within the app. Their website made it very, very hard to find.
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I already pay for the subscription for 1Password 7 and am happy to continue to pay for it. I am disappointed they are going the Electron route. I really like native Mac apps. I’ll give it a try when it comes out.
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Some of you might want to consider Secrets: Secrets | Password Manager on the Mac App Store
If I remember correctly, it’s by a former Apple engineer, fully native, one time unlock through the App Store. Here’s the site: Secrets – Password Manager for Mac
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I’m already trying Early Access ver 8.
Honestly it feels like many apps that have to go cross platform to thrive. It feels like app designed to be as comfortable on Mac, Windows and now Linux but it feels uninspiring me to.
Agile has put a lot of work into Watchtower and I’m just not that enthused about it. I really was hoping there was some direction that would wow me and honestly it’s just not there.
I know that it isn’t an Apple technology and that Agile will support it but Public/Private key access just feels like the next big thing.
Apple’s WWDC keynote explaining the next step in security was illuminating. Rather than obsesses about passwords I’d rather be diligent about creating sane security model for my home and not have to worry about passwords at all if possible.
At this point 1Password just because a database that collects my random info and quite honestly I can do that securely for less than 60 bucks a year. Feels like Version 8 is my swan song. Agile will be fine in the end but the future is going to be sittting down in front of your devices and the security and login will just be transparent like it’s not even there.
Right,
SO now I have to fire up the conversion to DataVaultsooner or look at other alternatives
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I got my new Touch ID keyboard yesterday, and generally love it. Then I got this:
I guess they will update soon, but the timing kind of sucks for this individual user.
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Only one person mentioned 1Password Families. My wife & I have found it super useful. Can’t do what it does with Keychain.
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As you suggest, I’ve had little time so far but am currently concentrating on reading up in detail about BitWarden.
I shall be watching this thread eagerly for experiences of others with other password managers they may have used.
Stephen
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That might be true. But it is a dangerous path for a lot of people. All these subscriptions do add up. And it’s not just software. There’s all the video services, internet radio, podcasts (Patreon, memberships)… People might loose track of everything they subscribed to. And end up in big (financial) problems.
After using the (miserable) SplashId for many years, I switched to SafeInCloud. Using that on Android, iPadOS and macOS for quite some time now (3+ years probably). And I think it’s a solid password manager. Syncs through whatever you want (I use WebDAV). It’s flexible. Has a native Mac app. And is reasonably priced (no subscription).
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They have been “ahead” of 1Password in all the evil ways…
- They gave up being a small independent company when being bought by LogMeIn
- They migrated from a native App to a web App
- They doubled subscription prices
Oh wait, 1Password did not do the last thing (yet?).
It’s what I call “a four-letter word” or “the J word”… 
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@rob Put it in the context, they still are 33% cheaper than 1Password.
I still do not recommend lastpass even though I am not happy with 1Password taking away features
Spending too much is a problem but software subscriptions rarely have anything to do with it. In 2019, before COVID hit, 69% of Americans had less than $1,000 in savings and currently the average person collecting Social Security gets $1,553.68 a month.
But some people are able to avoid financial problems.
And I am one of those guys. Not because of the payment model but because of the benefits this server-hosted database has. It had been a constant struggle to get 1Password sync up and running at work (heavily regulated network). With the new model: done. It just works. On Windows in a Windows network with only http and https ports available to the regular user. The browser integration is phenomenal, not matter if Edge, Chrome, Firefox or Safari is used.
I do not want to defend AgileBits and honestly, I do not think that they need that. Apparently, they are doing quite well (via PRnewswire.com). The years to come will be interesting for “Password apps”. Everybody and everything is looking for the next big thing to replace passwords and Apple already is hinting to system integrated solutions with Monterey and so on. Microsoft is doing similar things.
AgileBits has noticed the signs of the time early on and they have concentrated on a platform-independent business model that works just great, if you have to share credentials and other stuff in a secure manner across multiple platforms and with multiple users. And with their pricing model they have thought about personal use and use within families, while providing them with the same opportunities their corporate customers have.
I think that in the long run the primary customer for an app like that will be a corporate one or at least businesses. Or “power users” on multiple platforms. If I was on a Mac/iDevices only and if I had not more than 850 items in my 1Password vault, these days I would consider to just stick with the built-in options MacOS or iOS has and to store licenses and other stuff in a different location.
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So I watched the YouTube video of the 1password team discussing how they secured the Electron app.
First, I’m surprised this isn’t getting more attention. Most people are complaining about the Electron app because of the UI really confuses me. Is the change to Electron that drastic? 
Second, I admittedly didn’t understand the software architecture of the app prior to watching that video. But, in my opinion they made compromises for business benefit that may end up hurting them in the long run. I don’t think it would have been that difficult to maintain native apps across platforms; especially considering the infusion of cash that they’ve gotten. All I know is that the attack surface of 1password just increased and there were a lot of “should” and “we thinks” used in the talk…
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Do you have link to this video? I couldn’t find it on their 1Password YouTube channel.
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I’m not a programmer, but I’ve read several articles in the past few years about the increasing cost to develop an app.
Most of the most popular password managers are now cloud based and many such as LastPass and Dashlane use browser extensions instead of native apps. Whether we like it or not the trend seems to be moving away from on device apps.
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