Really enjoyed the episode and im very much looking forward to the one on Notion,
I think my main problem is I hate writing in markdown, I find it confusing and difficult to read, this is why even tho I have dabbled with obsidian and roam-research notion just looks nicer!
So I think my stack will continue to be
having said that noteplan is worth a look if I can get on the beta
UPDATE: over at the Devonthink forum, user FlohGro is using this x-callback url in a shortcut:
x-devonthinktogo://resync
Seems to work, but sounds like this is a maintenance routine, and is not suggested.
Wow, I respect your critic. I will take a look for myself as I am in exploration mode and bought well ā¦Basically everything.
I still use Evernote as a basic file cabinet. Basically, for its file capture ability and it usually guesses right for tags (I guess I am the 5% using tags). Throwing some items in Keep it mainly as a way to get easy on my MacPro. Stupid Airdrop is broken more than not.
I am looking at Nimbus Note to replace Evernote
Nimbus Note
I really like Scanner Pro on the iPhone that I have set to automatically drop scans in a Dropbox folder so that is my workflow for receipts. Then I attach to the transaction in Quicken or Quickbooks.
I started using DevonThink for my research depository and not clog it up with filing type items such as admin receipts.
In one of the companies that I work for, I use Mindmanager. It is the bomb, it is so great it has consolidated so many separate applications such as mind mapping, document collaboration, and tie in similar to Hook. Gantt charts and resource allocation. I think it is a hidden gem.
For other business Mindmapping, I am using Miro.
For Visual projects like woodworking and design especially those needing outside collaboration I am using Milanote.
Notion I use for more structured types of applications that need database constructs and spreadsheets such as tracking software app subscriptions, Inventory of apps, books, music, movies and entertainment ToDoās Videos to Watch, Books to read, etc.
Not interested in trying to consolidate apps outside of their strengths. Using 2Do for Task List then distill to weekly actions in Moleskins Actions and Timepage/Woven for a calendar.
Now for web capture besides using Evernote. I have been looking at several captures.
MyMind
Walling
MindZipMindZip
Weava
Still Early Days on most of these. Using MyMind for the quickest capture one click on iPhone and Mac (Chrome) But besides being the quickest I use it as a temporary depository when I have the time to put more time in to enter into another system.
For Bookmarks in Chrome, I have decided on Toby and more extensive Bookmarking used for researching ideas. Memex
Text preprocessing use Drafts.
For Coding nothing but UltraEdit
Content Creation such as Web Blogs, Medium Articles, Books Scrivener is my Choice.
I am looking at moving from WORD to Mellel for Technical Research Papers and Technical Documentation.
This basically brainstorming Note area such as Obsidian can show these unique connections and I love the way that they keep on updating the visual graphing options.
Oh yes please! Iāve been playing with the beta today, but havenāt linked it up with my Obsidian vault yet (wanted to understand the app itself first).
Also, can you explain your URL scene comment further up? What would you do we this new feature for?
Generally speaking I find Roam less friction to just start typing than Obsidian for whatever reason, but I have decided to go with Obsidian because of a certain frustration with the random feature adding based on tweets, leaving features that should be native to outside JavaScript developers (despite saying that too many js additions will slow down the database) and despite know data loss just rolling the responsibility to the user.
I think they are both terrific in their fundamental function and thanks to @MacSparky I had the epiphany of not trying to do too much (as in āeverything!ā) in them.
Biggest problem that I donāt understand why it isnāt higher on the feature list is how to get text out of these app to work with Word.
This sounds grumpy, which gives the wrong impression - I just gave a lecture using Obsidians beautiful graph view and slide show feature. It was fun!
What about Finder? I find all the web-based stuff cool, but Finder gives me what I need when it comes to knowledge organization and works well with automation.
I donāt quite get why some features like ātakes this and that file formatā are so great, Finder does that since the 90ās. Finder integrates with Files on iOS and iPadOS and is not a weird electron app. Ok the web app (icloud) is quite bad, but I never use that, anyway:)
(Guess Iām playing devils advocate a bit here)
Yes and spotlight and other search methods mean some of these ādata boxesā are fighting for long term relevance, ā¦ these are lovely apps DEVONthink et al, but increasingly they are presentational tools???
Great episode. Like many of you, my backend has been in DevonThink and I love it. Have been using Drafts archive to store research notes, but thinking about exporting those and cross linking them in Obsidian. Does anyone have a recommendation on what kind of material they would keep in a Drafts archive versus go into Obsidian? I think @MacSparky was using Drafts Archive to store for a while, but it sounds like its this + Obsidian.
Curious to hear insights from the communityā¦ as well as if you had a go to drafts exports workflow to align well with Obsidian
Hereās the guide to Obsidian + NotePlan some have asked for: Using Obsidian and NotePlan together
Itās also a bit of a review of the combo.
Hope I captured every step!
My god, how is it even possible itās a couple who just had a kid?! I canāt remember following software I liked this much that just surprises you every week with improvements like this. I certainly donāt want to set the bar of expectation because whatās already there is so solid. And Dynalist! So impressive.
I wish they could walk their way into a Roam pot of money without the exhorbitant subscription model. Iāve suggested they come out with an incredibly high priced iOS app.
Ha! I donāt know either way, but I wouldnāt be surprised if theyāve turned down investment. They seem focused on designing and making good tools for people, and on being the people doing that design/development, rather than chasing investment dollars and having someone else tell them what to build. Who knows what the future may hold, but I trust āem!
I think The Brain version 12 might be at a point now where it could be considered either in conjunction thin with or in competition with Devonthink and/or Roam.
Hmmm, if ācompetitionā means alternative, I wouldnāt ever consider TheBrain as an alternative to DEVONthink. Roam, yes.
TheBrain 12 is very nice!
Iāve been using it to augment Finder and keep up with the dumpster fire that are my files for my research, source code, data sets, processed data, graphs, figures, etc.
It allows me to link them visually, add notes, etc., while leaving them in place on my drives, so all my code doesnāt break by moving them around. In this way, it is similar to Hook, but better for me in that it has a visual interface.
Then thereās all the markdown, linking, backlinks, mentions, etc. that have been added in v12.
Yep. The visualization in TheBrain is vastly better than the silly graph views in Obsidian and Roam.
Iāve also been linking from notes in TheBrain to files in an Obsidian vault ā and indexing those files in DEVONthink ā so itās excellent that a set of documents can operate across apps this way.
(Just donāt move the file in the filesystem!)
And it is a very thorough guide and review. Thank you for doing it.
I would be willing to pay a lot for a mobile app.
Perhaps, if itās free it canāt be good? 
Many years ago I sneaked a Mac mini into work just for documentation. Dumped everything on it and searched easily with Finder. At one point I tried DevonThink and thought it too clunky (apparently there has since been a refreshed interface) as well as unnecessary. Finder sure beat Windows built-in search as well as a couple of third party tools I tried with it.
Fantastic and timely episode! Iāve been dabbling with Obsidian and interfacing it with my iA Writer library of markdown files and it seems very interesting. I still cannot see how useful the Zettelkasten method can be for my research (I am a researcher in a STEM field) but as suggested, I intend to try and keep my progress files in there and also try to thrown in notes of ideas based on the hope that ādigital connectionsā can potentially help me in connecting lines of evidence.
Last year I started to run DT in a VM, because I was not sure I wanted to upgrade to DT3.
For a few weeks now Iāve been looking for a tool to help me manage DPA announcements, court verdicts and regulatory documents. Listening to this episode reminded me again why I had bought Devonthink. My use of it sort of migrated over the years, but it was first and foremost a way to link documents, make connections between items and being able to quickly search for them.
TL;DR: I upgraded my DT license yesterday.