583: The Obsidian Deep Dive

I literally came to this thread to say exactly this!

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Yes I ditto what Gabe says . . . money is rattling in pocket . . . awaiting the exchange of money for Field Guide . . . Yes, that’s the ticket!

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Fortunately, there is a whole community dedicated to a ā€œmental illnessā€ called CRIMP identified by Steve Zeoli. Here’s Steve’s definition of CRIMP:

CRIMP stands for a make-believe malady called compulsive-reactive information management purchasing. Symptoms include:

  • never being satisfied with your current system of information management
  • continuously being on the look-out for something newer and better
  • purchasing every new PIM program you learn about
  • and secretly hoping you won’t find the perfect PIM, because then you’d have to stop looking for a better one

So, when someone speaks of succumbing to his or her CRIMP, it means acknowledging that they’ve purchased another PIM program even though they really don’t think they need it.

There must be a 12-step program for over-coming CRIMP, but who really wants to? It’s too much fun.

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Hi! My Name is Bobby and I’m a CRIMPER’er

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Viticci gets it.

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I hope he (and Finn) release the plugins he describes!

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ā€œHi Bobbyā€ :wave:
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+1 for a @MacSparky Obsidian Field Guide

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I’ll post some of my templates. It seems Obsidian has enough users now to justify more posts. I am going to make an Obsidian Field Guide. I was planning on holding off for 2-3 months before starting because right now the app isn’t even really out of beta. I don’t want it to become dated 2 weeks after release.

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Excellent news.
In a few months the iOS version should be out as well.

That is great news. I’ll buy it. I’ve experimented with Obsidian but don’t want to devote a lot of time and material to it until I understand better how to use it effectively and efficiently. Your Guide will be extremely helpful!

Addendum: I’d consider using Obsidian instead of Craft IF there was a way to select a lists of tasks in a note, e.g., from a meeting and have each one of them show up as a discreet task in OF. Craft handles this extremely well. I can’t fine a way to do this in Obsidian.

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I’m sure he will for $5 a month! :wink:

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There are a couple of plug-ins that will do this [ ] item and continue with creating a list with them as part of a todo plug-in and another that is part of a task / project plug-in.

I haven’t tried them as I have a different purpose, for Obsidian, which is replacing a dead NValt and 1200+ notes that it sat on top of.

OK, I’ll admit it: I’m waaay behind - I just listened to this episode today.

I was struck with how easily @MacSparky and @ismh86 were seduced into falling for this app, despite its Electron ugliness. It must be quite an app.

Being retired, I’m not convinced I would be able to make good use of any PKM app. I’m curious if other ā€œseniorā€ forum members have similar views.

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I’m younger and a good way from retirement but if learning is a life long enterprise then I would think that a PKM system will always be relevant.

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I’ve decided to move my academic research into Obsidian and completely remove DEVONthink from my workflow (after it lost about three months of files from a database due to bugs in DT). I’ve never liked DT’s interface and if it’s not trustworthy at storing data I’m through with it.

So far, I’ve found Obsidian absolutely fantastic for this purpose. Using alongside Ulysses while writing seems to be a fit from heaven, as it is a really good way to organise and display my materials and to record notes from research meetings.

I’m still keeping all my other notes in Craft though, which I much prefer for my personal notes. I want this to be strictly for logging meetings and making notes for research projects.

I’m curious as to how this will work for you as I’m keeping an eye on Obsidian. But I keep a lot of PDFS, emails, jpegs, and websites in DT consolidated and grouped based on research topics or projects.

I haven’t spent enough time with Obsidian to get a handle on this but I don’t see how Obsidian can handle efficiently what I just described.

I may well be wrong–insights on this?

Embedding PDFs, videos, images and audio is simple. Organising using the folder view is easy.

This is the screen I’m using today while working on a paper. I’m viewing PDFs, images and documents across this screen.

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Oh, just stop it; you’re making my life harder! :laughing: :wink:

Just when I think I have my workflow settled and perfect …

I’m not finding Obsidian especially intuitive–perhaps I’m just slow. Do you have a recommend best resource (besides the upcoming field guide by Sparks)?

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It’s not super intuitive. However, I managed to figure it out in about half an hour just playing around. I started by filling a folder with md files and put all the attachments in a folder, then I made this into a vault. Then I just dragged the attachments into the documents from the folder browser to where I wanted them and it inserted the appropriate links. After that I’ve just been viewing in preview mode and arranging the window panes as required.

The hard part was getting it working on mobile. I had to add ā€œstickersā€ to a Discord account (I’ve never used Discord before - that’s a really unintuitive app and makes Obsidian look friendly!). Eventually after following a lot of steps, I got a link to the TestFlight app (which is pretty darn good!)

Hmmm. I will stay with DT (I’ve never lost data and I backup religiously) because it has a lot of powerful features beyond storing files so my only remaining dilemma regarding my workflow is making a final decision between Craft and Obsidian. I want to stop "shopping apps. I’m almost there.

I like Craft, a lot, but there is something compelling about only using plain text files, even though I can and have exported Craft notes as .md files. I also like the idea of storing all professional and personal notes in one place and linking thinking, research, and project notes at will. ā€œOne note app to rule them all.ā€

I did not realize you could drag files into Obsidian and they would create links for you. That is MUCH easier than the awkward markdown syntax.

Ok, against my better judgment … I’m going to relaunch Obsidian and give it a longer test run. :slight_smile:

Addendum
I converted my DT notes to markdown, created a new vault, indexed it to DT and opened in Obsidian. Here is what I now have.

I’ll experiment with this over the next four weeks to ensure I give it a good test run.

My biggest challenge will be how to get a bulleted list of to-dos from Obsidian into OF without copying and pasting. Craft does this seamlessly and easily with one click.

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