Great conversation. It was really good to hear the actual voice of someone who we only hear the written voice of here. Thank you!
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I didnāt know pastor Harry personally. I live in Anderson, SC. Once my worldview opened up about a decade and a half almost ago (from fundamentalist to more reformed-ish baptist) I learned of all the wonderful reformed pastors and singers like the Gettys. That took us to Christ Cov one weekend to hear the Gettys, when Mike Ross was there. Then, we went to hear DeYoung when he arrived. At Second Pres in Greenville at a theology conference, I met pastor Reeder when he spoke and at the Q&A. He spoke about starting CC in a tiny trailer if I remember right. That blew me away because my first introduction was a huge property with thousands of peopleā¦
I wanted to wait to comment once I listened to the show. As others have said, I really enjoyed this episode. And getting to go to Apple to get your opinion, wow. Did you ever during those days of education encounter John Couch at Apple? Iām not sure off the top of my head when he was there. He was one of Appleās early (54th) workers, would leave, and Jobs asked him to come back when Jobs got back. I had the chance to talk with him about a year ago, mostly about technology, a little thing I wrote on tech for my Mdiv studies, and what it was like to be a believer at Apple during that time. You would like his book, My Life at Apple.
I told my wife last night, āthereās a guy on the MPU forums that has a nice office with Calvin on the shelfā¦ and lo and behold he started the school at CC.ā small world.
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Great show, @Bmosbacker! I always appreciate your positive attitude, thoroughness, courtesy, and gentleness in your comments.
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No point in writing a new post when that perfectly sums up my thoughts also 
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I have had the same experience when I hear someone and then finally meet them. They donāt look like I imagined! 
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That is amazingāwhat a small world! I donāt recall meeting John Couch, but Iām definitely going to buy the book!
Thank you for the generous and kind words. Humbled ā¦
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Great. He was over the Lisa during his first stint, and he was over education when he returned. At the 40th birthday for the Lisa at the computer history museum the various Apple old timers were on stage. Introduced them with random numbers that meant something. Johnās was who is number one in his life. He told me they told him he couldnāt say that. He said if you want me to speak at your event Iāll say it or I wonāt speak at all.
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Thanks everyone for the kind comments. Given the quality of people and expertise that @MacSparky has had on the show, I am among the least qualified to be on it. I am deeply and genuinely humbled to have been asked to be a guest. Frankly, I was intimidated to be on the podcast, but David made me feel at ease. It was intimidating, humbling, but a lot of fun! 
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Youāre way too humble, friend. You were a GREAt guest.
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Fantastic show, thank you for the excellent conversation gentlemen!
I hope the fragment about defragmenting Windows drives was meant as comedy. It was, to be honest, pretty childish. Disk defragmentation was a thing for magnetic hard disks both on Mac and Windows. It had nothing to do with Windows, but with the way data was stored.
The discussion about the Mac being superior is also getting quite long in the tooth.
So that was, at least for me, a false start of the episode.
Thatās how I took it.
IMO there are probably fewer differences between Macs and PCs than at anytime in the past. And artificial intelligence is likely to close the gap even more.
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It was, but I did frequently run defrag on my Windows computers, but bear in mind, this was in the 80s. I did so per ITs instructions.
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@Bmosbacker Great show! You are well qualified to be called a MPU guest of high worth. Great to hear you speak after reading you on this channel.
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You are more than qualified to discuss something in to which youāve clearly invested a lot of time, thought, and energy. I really enjoyed listening to your conversation with David, especially because I āknowā you from your ever gracious and informative comments here.
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Didnāt you just love the visualizations of your drive being all tidied up while the defrag utility chugged away! It always seemed so purposeful. 
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That is very kind of you, thank you.
I forgotten about that, but yes, indeed, there was a certain satisfaction about it! Although I was jesting a bit with David, the truth is, early on when I started using a Mac for the first time, I did feel this compulsion to defrag. The Apple rep told me that was not necessary, āunlike on a windows machine.ā Those were the days. 
That is certainly a humbling thing to read. Thank you for the kind words. I think this forum is a wonderful place to discuss our love for technology either as a profession or, as in my case, a hobby that I also use for work. Thanks again for the kindness. 