DEVONthink 4.0 Public Beta

And I thought it was just me. But again this is not a support channel for DEVONthink so I have to first gain my trust there :joy:

Always wondered about this.

It doesn’t require a “very high trust level” but of course we do have to control access to it. If you want access, you can request access on our forums.

I decided to leave DT3, because of the “modern and flexible licence model” (= subscription, for me). The yearly price is just too high for me. I am not a power user who needs e.g. AI everywhere.

I got back to EagleFiler. Yes, very different to DT3. I spoke to the developer and he confirmed that he works on EagleFiler 2.

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I wonder what version 2 of EagleFiler would involve? In its present state, it does everything I need. It stores all sorts of important files: receipts, software licenses, web clippings, finished documents, emails, PDFs, memes, archived email, archived Daily Notes, etc. It allows me to use a mix of organization via libraries, collections (folders), and tags, as well as having a bang-up search feature that is comprehensive and flexible.

As my Everything Bucket for external stuff that comes to me, EagleFiler is the perfect complement to NotePlan, which is where I keep Daily Notes, tasks, projects, plans, and other writings that I update frequently.

I know some have asked for Markdown support within the app itself, but I am just as happy using my favorite plain text editors, which are just a “double-click” or a “right-click and select” away.

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It would be ironic if Eagle Filer would then adopt its license model to a similar one as tinderbox, hookmark, busycal, bookends, mellel, Devonthink, curio et al…

Is it not to support native m-chip architecture?

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I recommend to follow the forum for EagleFiler, run by the developer. We will learn about a new version as soon as a public beta will be available.

Why ironic?

The new version 3 of SpamSieve (released in autumn 2024, same developer) is available as one-time purchase (not subscription). My feeling is that a new version of EagleFiler will be also sold as a one-time purchase (of course we will know it when EagleFiler will be available officially).

Yes, as I understand it, part of the guts of the EagleFiler app still runs on old code from the Intel days. But the combination of the EagleFiler app, new and old code together, and Apple’s Rosetta II software runs so fast and so seamlessly that I would never have known from its performance. I can see why Michael Tsai, the dev, has had a hard time fixing something that wasn’t broken! :slightly_smiling_face: :man_shrugging:

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EagleFiler 2 will use the same pricing model as SpamSieve 3: one-time purchase with a 50% discount if you’re upgrading from the previous version.

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Hi @schottendichter: Michael, the developer of EagleFiler answered this:

I feel the same, while I can afford it I am unwilling to add such an expensive yearly subscription to my already too long list of subscriptions. I also do not need the AI features.

I will miss the search, but after a week testing, I am pleasantly surprised at much how Spotlight has improved.

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Comparing licensing models of different products by different devs and companies is like comparing apples to oranges; you need to decide the value both the orange and the apple offer to you, that’s all.

Both EagleFiler and DEVON are superb products on what they do, but they are different beasts and I would not choose one or the other merely on the licensing model. You can avoid paying for DEVONthink updates and it will happily keep working for you so I would be hard pressed to consider it a normal “subscription”.

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I skimmed the developer’s page. I didn’t see anything about file conversion or OCR of documents. I may have missed it. Are those features in EagleFiler?

See EagleFiler online manual.

8.6 How can I run optical character recognition (OCR) on my PDFs?

On macOS 13 and later, EagleFiler automatically uses Live Text to make scanned text selectable and copyable.

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I’m not sure what you are looking for but if you search the online manual for the words “export” and “convert” and you will see many examples of EagleFiler performing these two functions in various ways.

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I use Acrobat for file conversation and OCR (my company provides a license), I think you confused posters as I don’t use Eaglefiler.

Read the manual? Who does that? :slightly_smiling_face: I will do that, thanks.

My entire technical career was enabled by scouring any and all documentation that I could find.

P.S. I know you’re just kidding around. :slightly_smiling_face:

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