Evernote in Trouble?

How do you like writing notes on the iOS DevonThink app?

Devonthink shines for capturing files, as a repository for them, and to a certain extent for editing pdfs. I think that there are much better options for your writing, which of course can then be sent into Devonthink.

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I don’t really like writing notes directly in DT. It is okay but not a great experience. I write my notes in Drafts then export to DT.

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I think the writing has been on the wall for Evernote for a while now; I migrated everything into Apple Notes and have been pretty happy there.

I read the situation differently. They are still successful. Just restructuring. They need to innovate more but they are still miles bigger than bear and DEVONthink put together.

I love Evernote

The CEO has just been pushed out just weeks after the exit of Evernote’s chief technology officer, chief financial officer, chief product officer and senior vice president of human resources - and the layoffs of 15% of the workforce. Evernote has topped out at 25 million or so users, less than 5% of whom are paying for the service (and the rest costing the company $$). This does not smell like success to me.

Where did you get these numbers? Unfortunately there’s some false and misleading information that’s being reported by the media.

At last count evernote had more than 200 million users. I really don’t know how they’re doing, but I am a heavy user of the product and hope they get it turned around.

Unfortunately, that’s a deceptive statistic that Evernote promotes on its main page: “225 million people around the world have discovered Evernote”

That’s how many people signed up for an account since the product came into existence. How many are active users? Evernote does not say. I was referring to analyst reports of active users. In 2012 CEO Phil Libin said they had 1.4 million paying customers, and the point of the recent firings (and in 2015) were mainly due to stagnant growth. In 2015 Evernote fired 18% of its workforce, shut down three of its 10 global offices, and replaced its long-time CEO Phil Libin with former Google exec Chris O’Neill.

That didn’t spur a turnaround, hence the firing of O’Neill and much of the top executive staff (and another 15% of the company) just three years later.

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i know this topic been beat 2 death but i find it funny how some popular Relay hosts are back on the tool LOL aka Myke, Federrico well just realized CPGGray never left lol just complained alot

i stayed only bc so much of my day is windows @ work vice trying devon think but I hope EN capitalizes on loyalty and continues to grow in the right direction

Sticking with Evernote, because:

  • there is no reason to migrate preemptively: exporting could be done from a Mac if the company really ceased operations) and
  • the app has very few competitors if you want a one-stop-shop (which is what I need). There are zero alternatives (as far as I know) if you want to share your account with someone, e.g. your spouse (assuming they have their own Dropbox and Apple ID).
    9200 notes and counting.
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In agreement here. Though I have had misgivings about several departures from the company, I continue to use EN (albeit not as thoroughly as I used to) and was heartened to hear on Connected that by Myke and Frederico were using it again.

As is the nature of things, every app has a use and a season, and maybe Evernote is about to have another Spring.

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With the next iOS and MacOS, Apple Notes will be much better and have the ability to link inside of notes to other notes.

I have used Evernote as a sort of Archive for things, I might need in the future. I have a longstanding project of exporting all my notes, some 2500, consisting mostly of PDFs and Word documents.

I was considering DEVONthink as my Evernote replacement, but now I’m more thinking about Apple Notes

I don’t recommend using AN as you describe. I use DT for archiving articles and other files. DT can convert files to different formats, has built-in OCR, and it is easy to bulk manage and export/import files out of and into DT. To bulk export one’s notes and attachments with AN, one has to request a download via iCloud, which can take several days for your notes with the attachments to become available for download.

I use AN for Notes and attached files that are relevant to a given note. I do not use AN for massive file storage. I don’t believe it is designed for that purpose.

Just my two cents….

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Yeah you’re right. What’s the best online resource (preferably video tutorial) to set up DEVONthink as an Archive the way you have and the way I want? I already have MacSparky’s guide of DEVONthink

I’ve tried to make DT work in this way for me but my needs don’t take advantage of it’s capabilities and it just never seemed to ‘stick’ for me - I ended up still having various other places to squirrel away documents and files and having notes somewhere else didn’t seem to feel right.

That led me to flirt with Evernote again, but with recent news it didn’t look like a good long term bet so I ended up looking at Notebooks as a true ‘everything bucket’. I’m so glad I did, it seems like the perfect fit for me. I love that it sits seamlessly on top of finder and allows me to create notes inside the app within the folder strucucture. So I can view files and notes along side each other within the app and also while browsing finder. Using PARA in this way seems really intuitive and a solid implementation of a second brain for my unsophisticated needs.

The IOS app also seems a lot more easy to use than DTTG which I always struggled with. The only thing I need to solve is OCR for PDF’s on the way in, which I think I will set up via Hazel.

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I also have MacSparky’s guide; it is excellent. I’ve not seen anything better.

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Why didn’t it stick with you as an Archive exactly? And what didn’t you like about the DTTG app?

Does it detail how one sets up DEVINthink as an Archive?

I took screenshots of the material covered. I hope this is helpful.









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