I feel like Apple is Ripping Me Off

Apple still has a music store. You buy it and let Music (the app) handle it jus like in the olden days. It will stream and play every where like usual. You would have to download it to your devices though. (Its been so long since I did that, I am not sure how it works anymore. :neutral_face:)

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You young whippersnappers, you! In the old days, we had to buy CDs and rip’em ourselves! :rofl:

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Just paid 2TB iCloud and Apple Music separately. You can’t simply compare Apple to Microsoft because the equivalent Pages, Numbers and Keynotes are already free. For Microsoft, even if you don’t need cloud sync and storage you still need to pay for 1TB.

But if you think Word, Excel and Powerpoint are more essential than Apple suites then you just need to pay OneDrive.

If only you knew! :grinning:

No, Apple’s pricing for any form of storage (iphone storage, Mac storage and iCloud storage) is far too expensive, especially with the recent increases of £24 a year (over 28%) as it’s now £107.88 a year for 2TB of iCloud storage.

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How about taping the vinyl to a reel to reel?

NextDNS. There’s even a couple posts on this forum about it.

They are…it stinks really.

With Apple I have the following…

$9.99/month - iCloud+ 2TB (already using a little of over 1TB)
$10.99/month - Apple Music Individual (we have a Spotify Family account)
$6.99/month - Apple Arcade

Total monthly $27.97

If I were to switch to Apple One for my wife and I…to get the same storage, it would bump us up to $37.95/month, but I would get stuff that I don’t use (Fitness+, News+, TV+)

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Was that a thing? When I was just a kid, my Dad had a big Wollensak reel-to-reel tape recorder for something he did for work. But we never taped from vinyl. We listened to our records on phonographs, like animals. :slightly_smiling_face:

I taped vinyl to reel-to-reel as a teen back in the 60’s so I wouldn’t wear out the records.

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My folks did that to slow speed reel to reel (7.5 ips) so they could fit more albums to a tape. lots of easy listening music in the background.

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After looking at the pricing plans again, I would say, no, you’re not being ripped off.

2TB for $120/year that’s family sharable looks fine compared to 1TB for $60/year that’s not shareable, or $100/year that is shareable.

The extra things you’re buying in Apple One are entertainment services Microsoft doesn’t offer.

The Office Suite is a loss leader thrown in by Microsoft to match Apple’s and Google’s free offerings of their consumer office suites. Microsoft would like you to think that’s worth something because they charged a lot for Office when they didn’t have competitors, but the value is subjective.

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Yes, it was a thing. I had an Akai reel to reel before moving onto a dual cassette player.

As others have said, you can get the iCloud storage and a music subscription separately.

This gives you more flexibility to choose between a music service or buy albums from a store.

iCloud Storage

  • 2TB, with family sharing: $10/month

Music

  • Apple Music family plan: $17/month
  • Spotify Duo (for 2 people): $15/month
  • Tidal family plan: $17/month
  • iTunes Store (yes, it’s still alive). Buy tracks or whole albums, DRM free. All purchases are registered to your iCloud account and can be downloaded to all your devices using the music app. You can share purchases with Family members.

That’s the thing. As @rebornrock notes, it’s not the storage that’s costing you that huge amount - it’s the music and the AppleTV+. And both of those services are competitively priced for what they are.

I don’t know how the iTunes store works with streaming to devices and such as there’s no local storage on Homepods and such, but we actually downgraded Apple to the “storage only” and we’re paying for YouTube Music. That gives us commercial-free YouTube plus their music app, which I’m finding to be surprisingly good - although probably not what you’re looking for. :slight_smile:

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They are, and I don’t think the $38 he is paying a month sounds bad at all for everything you get. Unless you aren’t using all those services. I was paying $21 for Music, TV, and Arcade. I never used Arcade or TV though, so I canceled it all and went with Tidal for $11 a month. Plus $3 a month for extra iCloud storage.

Apple TV is going the way of HBO for me. Pay for a month once a year, watch everything and cancel it.

Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but Microsoft 365 Family includes 1 TB for each person, for up to 6 persons (so up to 6 TB in total, for €99/year); they don’t have to share the same 1 TB.

Oh, no, you’re right. Thanks. If your family is all committed to using cloud storage you should be able to exceed 2TB.

Microsoft 365 for Education A1 gutted this last month (capped per user storage at 100GB) but it hasn’t happened to any of the personal tiers yet.

I agree completely that the cost of Apple One is unjustified compared to other similar services on the market.

I canceled Apple Music, Apple TV, and Arcade, and I only have the upgraded cloud storage. This has saved me hundreds a year, and I’ve found other alternatives that cost a fraction. For example, I switched to using YouTube Music as I was already spending €13 a month on YouTube Premium, or there is a free version of Spotify (with advertising).

I think I could also get by without a Music service, as I tend to use it like a radio; it wouldn’t be much for me to switch to listening to free radio as an alternative. I have most of the music I care about as MP3s that I digitized from CDs years ago, and these can be used with iTunes Match.

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For a comparison, I pay 129,- SEK for iCloud Drive 2 TB and 279,- SEK for Apple One Family. That is totally worth it for me (but we store 1.9 TB on the iCloud drive at the moment), it includes backups for all family members (me + wife + daughter) and includes Apple Music etc etc.

That is 408,- SEK incl taxes => 326,- excl taxes = 3917,- per year, which equals 365 USD.
If you only need storage, buy the 2TB iCloud Drive option.

I agree though that Apple should have a 1TB tier as well.