Is there too much AI?

I recently went with a paid subscription with Claude. It has been invaluable. But this has highlighted a problem for me. Nearly every app I use on iPad and Mac want me to use its own AI and pay a considerable amount for it. There is often also no option to say you don’t want their AI and certainly don’t want to pay for it. This is quite frustrating, as I’m happy with the app, but not the extra cost for their AI implementation.

I hope this is a passing phase due to the newness of AI.

I may be misunderstand you, but can’t you use the apps without invoking AI?

I’m guessing it is the incessant clamor to use Al in every app, not that the app cannot be used without it.

As an example that annoys me, here is a screenshot of of Zoom. I have yet to find a way to remove the “AI Companion” advertisement.

I do not want nor need the AI Companion.

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I agree. The trend of apps “bolting on” AI is annoying. I, too, wish more app developers gave users a choice, especially when they want to charge more.

For example Atlassian recently rolled out AI in all their apps. I’m sorry, Atlassian, but we don’t need AI to generate content in JIRA.

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Yes, that is frustrating. It’s called “upselling.” :rage:

Yes, exactly this, or baking AI in and just charging more (ie Adobe)

While I consider GenAI to be very useful, I am not exactly convinced that every tool should have it --even only looking at the financial standpoint.

This too shall pass.

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For me, it depends on what the AI is intended to do and how it’s implemented—and I’m speaking of AI broadly, not just LLMs.

For instance, I’m all two thumbs way, way up for the built-in AI in my cameras and my image processing apps (Lightroom, Photoshop, DXO PureRaw, The Nik Collection.) While some of that AI is image generation via a text prompt, the vast majority isn’t, and it is indispensable. (An aside: I applaud Adobe for letting its users choose whether or not to use third-party image generation models like Nano Banana or Flux Kontext instead of its own Firefly models without the need for a plug-in.)

Apps that are built around using generative AI for a specific task and handle the first pass at a prompt behind the scenes—such as Recall or NotebookLM—also get a thumbs-up.

But if the app is only adding a dollop of summarization or offering to re-write my emails for me via a bolted on LLM, I’d rather just bring my own prompt and API key, thank you very much, or pop on over to the LLM I’ve paid for.

That being said, not everyone has the time or inclination to roll their own AI workflow, so I can’t begrudge them a button that offers to clean up their memos for them.

None of the apps I use have (yet) increased their price when they’ve added AI tools, but that will surely change the moment the price of a token reflects what building and running a frontier model costs.

Log into your Zoom account online (not the app), click settings from the left-side menu. AI Companion is the first tab. You can toggle them all off.

They will turn back on again at some point–maybe when the app is updated?–but at least it won’t be quite so annoying.

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I am an IT manager and regularly take demos from software vendor. I’ve made a fun hobby of waiting until we’re a few minutes into the demo, and then saying “oh, I’m sorry, could you show me the non-AI version of the tool?” Not because I’m opposed to AI philosophically, but because these days it’s hard to tell what business value a tool is adding behind the chatbot bolt-on.

No one is ever prepared for this; it’s a guilty pleasure to watch them squirm and sputter while they rethink their entire presentation script. Perhaps I’m cruel, but I hope their embarrassment translates to feedback to the product team.

I DO oppose AI-generated content in Jira, and in any other work management or project organization software. If we’re going to be the subject of AI overlords in a few years, anyway, I certainly don’t want to start voluntarily taking directions from them early! :wink:

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Alas …

Despite toggling them all off, it seems the add will always show.

Bummer. Thanks anyway.

I honestly am quite disappointed in the capabilities of AI considering the models do a fraction of what they are advertised as being capable of doing. I’ve paid for ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Perplexity and probably 10 other tools because I was just hoping to find one very solid option. Well, fast forward 9 months, and I am a firm believer that AI will be beneficial only for enterprise use and marginally for retail use (i.e., it’s good at summarizing info and creating cartoons).

I find the AI tools in the Atlassian apps very useful - not for generating content but for reviewing work I have done. I ask it to review my user stories and look for any big gaps compared to the requirements in the epic or in a Confluence page where the feature is documented. I get it to review my acceptance criteria for how well they cover the details in the user stories. YMMV but I think I would miss it now if they took it away from me :slightly_smiling_face:

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Unfortunately, Adobe is doing both - continuing to charge more for everything, and adding “AI credit” system to many of their tools which ultimately will result in more a la carte costs.

Right now, AI credits are either not-enforced (Photoshop Alertbox- “Generative remove uses AI but doesn’t use up any of your generative AI credits”), or not yet needed in sufficient quantity to show up as another pain point for increased costs.

Sadly for Adobe, in spite of all their AI advances, Wall Street thinks they have missed the boat and are falling behind in AI and has depressed their stock lower unlike the “AI bounce” many other tech firms are enjoying.

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From what I’ve read on other forums, many creatives don’t want AI. They want to use their artistic talent. Maybe AI in graphic/art design is less well received?

It may depend on what you mean by “AI.”

Do I want to create images from whole cloth using a generative model? Probably not. (Although I am having fun experimenting and trying to incorporate the results into my own work.)

Do I want AI to help me do in my digital darkroom what used to be done in a physical one? Yes, of course. Do I want AI to de-noise my raw files, make masking and compositing more straightforward, remove distractions from my images, etc etc etc. Oh yes, I most certainly do.

What I don’t want is AI injecting itself into my workflow without being asked.

In sum: AI can be a useful adjunct to the creative process rather than a replacement for it. It doesn’t have to be an engine for the generation of slop.

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Really tough to discuss this briefly, but there are so many tools in Adobe now that use AI under the hood, that I and many creatives see no going back.

As others stated, AI is meaningless term now and still connotes LLM/generative bias when the entire suite of AI tech is so much more and includes a lot of proven tech going back 10 to 20 years in reality.

Example: Basic object selection in Photoshop and every other graphics/photo app - is it AI or not? I dunno, but I can’t do without it as saves hours and hours of manual pen tracing/drawing work.

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