Is Vision Pro the code that cracked the TV?

I don’t remember the quote but Steve Jobs once said something similar to the subject above.
I wonder if the cinema experience on vision Pro is what he was referring to? It certainly will give television sets a run for their money (at one point).
Things that make you go ‘hmmmm’…

Unless I’m home alone, I prefer a shared TV/movie watching experience.


I also have thought about this, but I do not think so.

‘I’d like to create an integrated television set that is completely easy to use,’ he told me. ‘It would be seamlessly synced with all of your devices and with iCloud.’ No longer would users have to fiddle with complex remotes for DVD players and cable channels. ‘It will have the simplest user interface you could imagine. I finally cracked it.’

It pretty much sounds like tvOS of recent years to me.

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I will never sit in a room with my family, with all of us wearing AR goggles pretending we’re having a good time together.



For this to be true, wouldn’t iCloud and Siri have to actually work well? :slightly_smiling_face:

People are doing pretty much exact (OK, not AR, but Googles/Glasses) this in 3D-Cinemas, so why not!?

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You have quoted me quoting Steve Jobs from 2011 (or maybe even 2010, I have no idea when Isaacson did interview Steve Jobs). :slight_smile: This was in response to the question if Steve Jobs did see “Vision Pro” being the “code that cracked TV”. I do not think that Steve Jobs did have any “revolutionary product” in mind when he mentioned having cracked the code to building HDTVs. I think it was more about the UI, Apple’s concept bringing all the channels together (which did not work because not all content providers were happy with Apple being Apple). In hindsight I see a resemblance between Jobs’ quote and the releases of 2011 and 2012: iCloud launched back in October 2011. Apple TV OS 5.0 launched back in early 2012 “adding support for 1080p video and debuting a major update to the device’s user interface with a number of new software features. (…) For example, instead of having to navigate to the Internet menu to access Netflix, NBA, NHL, WSJ Live, YouTube, Vimeo, Podcasts, Photo Stream, MobileMe, Flickr, or Radio, each of those items is accessible with a single click from the home screen.” (Quote from Macworld (back in 2012)). All this sounds pretty much being in line with Steve Jobs’ quote:

  • “seamlessly synced with all of your devices and with iCloud”
  • “It will have the simplest user interface you could imagine. I finally cracked it.”

Do I agree? Do I think that Siri and iCloud are working well on the AppleTV? Well, I agree that today’s tvOS is far from perfect, Siri being one of the prime examples where it could be far better (I do not use Siri on the AppleTV). Then again, I have no issues with iCloud sync on my AppleTVs. And I do not consume barely any video content outside of the AppleTV. It has been my go-to device for years. So, it might be a good experience after all. :slight_smile:

As far as I am concerned, Vision Pro is not a Steve Jobs product. After so many years, I think that we are well in the post Steve Jobs era with regards to Apple products.

Sorry about that. Not my intention. I quoted from your post and the correct context was not picked up by Discourse.

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Some people might even wear glasses 24/7. I do that.

Edit: 16/7 - I sleep

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I have a hard time believing I would sit on the couch with my wife each in our own headset (this is assuming the price comes down) and watch tv together. However, I’m sure many said the same thing about people wearing airpods out in public a few years back. As this technology becomes more common, I think you could begin to see a family in their own headsets watching tv. We could debate whether this a good thing, but assuming this technology is adapted by more than enthusiasts, we could be on the precipice of changing how we view media at home.

I’m not in the market at $3,500.00. But I relish the thought of watching an Indy Car or F1 race, or a college basketball game with this technology. Assuming it gets it right.

I think that it’s a different paradigm that we’ll need to experience and get used to. Just watching the clip about people face timing with both sides wearing the VP is proof (to me) that apple doesn’t intend for this to be a device that separates interactions amongst people (unless they want that)

What I really wonder, and haven’t have heard in one of the many reviews yet, how disturbing is the sound for the surrounding?

It is not. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Today’s reality for a lot of families is sitting in different rooms, to watch different TV-Shows.
I think it could be for them a great advantage, to be able to sit together, and watch different shows…!

I suppose if those are the two options. I think that is a sad commentary on family life, but that topic is beyond the purpose of this forum. :slightly_smiling_face:

I think it is rather common in families where one part e.g. wants to look some sports events, and the other part not. Or crime, or whatever what the other part don’t like.
It might even be the better solution to look in that case in different rooms, instead of having one part forced to look something, they are not interested in.

And regarding the Sports Viewers, I bet those are among the first to get a VP, because bigger is always better for those viewers…

That’s a great point that I had not considered…

IMO face timing with a digital “persona” is no better than a phone call. At least Zoom allows me to see the other person’s face. I don’t think that will be a big selling point.

You could “mask” your Face on Zoom, too.

Sure, someone could do that in a face to face meeting too. But that would result in me firing my financial advisor, etc. or not hiring the remote applicant I was interviewing.