macOS Golden Gate 27

This is still the case on IOS where people remember their phone changing overnight due to IOS 7

Yes, search will be for information available from that one device, not across all devices on your Apple account.

1 Like

For years I would regularly wait until just before the new macOS goes to Gold master before upgrading my desktop computer.

Features in MacOS 15 led me to install Sequoia about a month after the full release (I think), but I held off on Tahoe as I didn’t like it. All other devices got upgraded to the 26 OS.

So my M1 Mac mini and M4 MBA both currently sit on 15.7.4.

But I currently intend to install Golden Gate about a month after macOS is formally released, if not sooner.

I’m so glad I managed to skip Tahoe.

2 Likes

I’ve given Tahoe a miss, too. I know that GG 27 is being likened to a Snow Leopard release. However, ironically for me, as someone that started owning Macs on Panther, Snow Leopard was the OS that gave me the most bother. I think it came installed as the OS on one of the first 27" iMacs models and I received it upon release. No end of phone calls to Apple Support to remedy the issue. That was almost 17 years ago, so I can’t even recall what the problem was but I know it took hours of back and fore to resolve.

So ā€œSnow Leopard,ā€ in my world, is not a euphemism for the panacea to all ills. :smiling_face:

I"m on an m1 mac and will leave my mac on Sequoia. I realise my mac isn’t built for AI and am not sure I want it built into my OS. I’m happy to wait and see the ramifications of AI on local devices. I’m comfortable AI being outside my OS. I have reservations about it having access to my local devices.

I understand your point, but security and other updates will be increasingly sidelined on those version of macOS, including Sequoia. I’m not willing to run that risk. and hopefully Apple will persist with allowing Apple Intelligence to be switched off.

1 Like

I think that runs both ways. Increasingly adding AI into your local system, especially in its developmental phase is equally a security and data loss risk.

Ironically, due to AI, vulnerability management is quickly becoming the largest risk element which needs to be controlled.

AI models can chain tens of vulnerabilities together in very short periods of time to find gaps which neither manual testers or automated non AI testing could conceive of, never mind test. Mythos has been mothballed, but it’s only a matter of time before models which can do this out of the box will be available to bad actors.

I’d take AI I can switch off and control it’s access over vulnerabilities right now.

1 Like

I’m finding I’ve got an AI-proof life, as what I do for work is random enough (lots of different clients; no patterns) that AI can’t find enough patterns to help me. I wasn’t surprised, as I had the same problem with DEVONthink a few years back.

I went back to Sequoia this week because the Contacts app hasn’t been downgraded to improve it and AI is getting increasingly difficult to disable and remove the embedded models. I’m hearing that with Golden Gate, the models will take 70 GB of SSD space. I was hoping it would have been better.

Also, the older copies of iWork open in one bounce on my M2 Air, and the newer ones take two bounces to start.

1 Like

This does not appear to be the case with os27 (reddit)

You lose disk space and more importantly control. At this point, this is not something I would trust and would create an even greater headache in terms of security and backup.

Plus running LLM’s locally will create heat spikes and faster battery depletion shortening the life cycle of your battery. And LLMs needing more disk space will make you have to pay more for extra space that is already at a premium in terms of cost.

All-in-all AI is going to require a much greater financial investment with a much shorter upgrade cycle. For me this will really warrant proper scrutiny and financial planning. I certainly do not want to; at this point; simply upgrade my mac without thinking through the consequences. Especially as I’m on an m1. I’ve possibly got till sept 2027 before sequoia is unsupported.

I also cannot imagine that I’m alone in this position. If enough people hold back upgrading and Apple sales slow, it may cause some solution to arrive. I’m also waiting to see what os27 does to the neo, especially with users losing 30GB+ of SSD due to the LLM and that the 8GB ram simply won’t be enough. Folks are going to be extremely angry if their new Neo is defunct in 18 months or severely stunted.

My understanding is that devices like the Neo won’t get the on device local AI processing. It will just use Private Cloud Compute. I could be wrong though.

The Mythos threat goes against all types of software, not only AI-written software: you don’t need to be using software built with AI to be a target.

1 Like

No matter what I do, iPad OS insists on shoving a ā€œSign into Game Centerā€ notification at me whenever I fire up the only iOS / iPadOS game I play, SpellTower. Siri won’t go away either, no matter how many toggles I turn off.

I somehow don’t think they’re going to let me excise Apple Intelligence from my devices.

Honestly, Apple’s ā€œwe know what our users want and need even if they don’tā€ paternalism drives me around the bend sometimes.

2 Likes