I tried it and I don’t like the look? It is somehow… too much?
And it is so slow. It feels like an Electron app but it isn’t.
I am looking for a Mail client for my Microsoft school accounts, I’m a teacher and we have to use those accounts. Apple Mail is constantly having problems with MS’s weird naming of folders.
I tried Mailmaven, Mailmate and Thunderbird. I really like Thunderbird so far. My second choice and the fastest one is definetively Mailmate.
I’m just impressed that they were able to ship it. That was quite an endeavor to go from being a plug-in to a full-blown mail application. That said, I haven’t had time to install it and really kick the tires yet. Curious to hear what the gang thinks.
I used Mail Maven for a while soon after it came out in beta. I wasn’t pleased by it, much. It’s been a while, but I deleted the app in a day or so.
Before, I used Mail Tags heavily. After a few years, though, I gave up on tagging in generally for most things. The value is very use-case specific and I could see spending the time needed to maintain a tagging practice.
With the tags feature, it made no sense to me to pay $30/year (or more) to get a features that come free with Apple Mail.
Katie
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I’ve used Apple Mail, Thunderbird, Spark, Mailmate, and MailMaven. Currently, I use MailMaven. What I appreciate about MailMaven is its flexibility. I can customize it to perfectly suit my email workflow. Additionally, it offers a range of “Power User” features that I can explore.
Ok, I like it enough to fork out $45 which is the current sale price, ending 15 Nov, after which it will increase to $75. (Alright, I admit, there is a slight FOMO at play here)
What convinced me to open my wallet was that it made me feel like a power user and everything is kept locally, so moving mails, processing them, etc does seem fast to me.
I like the old school table view of my Inbox, not that Outlook or Apple Mail’s Sender followed by 3-4 lines of previews. I love the keyboard shortcut support, the Smart Mailboxes and the Rules.
And when I highlight an email, the table view will highlight emails from the same conversation, as shown in blue below:
(I prefer to show all email instead of grouping conversation, which this app allows too)
Search is a separate window, which is excellent. I have the main window and the search window side by side. I wish I could sort by Sender and just type the name of the person in-line to jump to the first email from the sender. Doing this in the separate Search window is my current workaround.
One thing which I dislike in Apple Mail is that it hides the email address of the sender from the email, just displaying the full name. When I get a dodgy email, I want to know who it is from, whether it is someone pretending to be from my bank. Maven showed this fully, so I have no doubt who it is from!
There’s so many little thing that seems to call out for me. There is a free Take Control book on MailMaven. I had this book and the app for 2.5 hours inside a plane, and I was messing around the app offline, processing existing, local mails. I think this is an app MPU will appreciate.
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I’m racking my brain to think of any other email client that does outgoing rules; I can’t think of any. You can set a Project as well as a folder in an Outgoing Rule.
A couple of other interesting things in MailMaven are Projects (less need for folders) and Review Dates: you can set a review date and file it normally and then you can get a reminder when you need to review the email for a response.
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Thunderbird does. And I think Postbox has this too. Thunderbird also has rules for archiving. Which is a huge plus in my book.
I’m surprised TB has outgoing rules; I didn’t know that! Thank you.
I liked the other software from the Smallcubed team that I used. I need my mail clients to work with M365 for some of my business email accounts, so that will be an issue, although there are some hacks solutions to get around that. Will definitely kick the tires on this. One thing interesting is the seemingly long list of “known issues” on their website…
I am using MailMaven with my office M365 account, 2 Gmail accounts and an iCloud. After using for it almost full time yesterday, I have to say, this is such a delightful software to use. I have forgotten how fun Mail app used to be. If it weren’t for the big starting price ($45, now maybe $75), I bet they will be a hit. I feel like this is on par with Keyboard Maestro - hard to start (maybe because of the look and feel, very old school Mac) but once you get the hang of it, it is very customizable, lots of things to do, fun to use and hard to live without.
Also note that the main feature that the OP asked for (tagging) is only included for 1 year (if syncing is required) with that one-time purchase:
Your purchase of MailMaven comes with a 12 month Maintenance Plan which includes support, tag syncing, and updates. On expiration MailMaven continues to be functional without a Maintenance Plan. However, tag syncing and new features require an active Maintenance Plan.
(emphasis mine)
Instead of tag, I use Flag. Flag is also supported by the backend email (Outlook, Gmail or iCloud), so once Maven updates the flag in this Mac, it updates the backend, and the other Mac gets updated too.
And I move messages to folder instead of tagging.
Also, I’m guessing, if you only use it on one Mac, tag still works, just no syncing to another Mac after that one year ends.
I never knew this is a thing:
Template that will be used when I forward or Reply an email:
From the screenshot, there’s a lot of customisation available, even the “Cursor Position”.
Originally, Maven will put my signature at the end of a forwarded email i.e. wrapping the content and so, my signature is lost unless the reader scroll to the end of a long email. Exploring the Signature settings, I find out that there is a template which I can customize and so I moved “Signature Location” to the top, before the "== Begin forwarded message: "
Sooo good!