None of which I have any need for. I’m just an “average user.” So perhaps there’s no reason for me to pay for a password manager anymore?
I’m struggling with the same question. I love 1Password, but I’m sure I could get by with the Passwords app and moving the other items I store in 1Password to Apple Notes. I appreciate simplicity and having fewer items to manage, so streamlining to a native app has its own allure besides the reduction in cost.
I installed the macOS Developer Beta on my laptop to test the Passwords app, and it works pretty nicely, but I suspect I will keep using 1Password for the immediate future for two reasons:
- I put a lot of non-password data into 1Password, such as health records, that I was previous managing with a different app. While it wouldn’t be a huge effort for me to move those to Apple Notes, it’s a non-trivial amount of work.
- I have a Family subscription for 1Password, and it’s been such a struggle to get my husband on board with password management that I don’t think it’s worth the effort of trying to retrain him to use something else. If I have to keep 1Password for his sake, I may as well avoid upsetting the apple cart for myself, too.
But if Apple would release the Health app for macOS and added the ability to create some sort of health records or journal entries…well, I’d have to give this decision some more thought.
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If you’re only storing passwords in 1PW and spending the money is bothering you, the Passwords app should definitely be good enough to cancel.
I plan to do exactly the same thing, but I don’t install betas. I’ll wait to make the switch once the new OSs are released to the public.
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Without Password app iCloud Keychain is able to perform well as 1Password. The only concern becomes everything in the same basket.
For most people who want a free or less expensive password manager that works well both inside and outside Appleland, Bitwarden is the best option.
Me too (although I don’t use 1Password any more), and the sticking point for me is that you can’t lock an Apple Note that contains attachments.
For me, that’s like a fast food outlet that offers free fries. I love fries. But I’d absolutely detest only ever eating fries. I want burgers, salads, drinks, desserts, etc.
Secure notes? That’s dipping the fries in fake gravy to emulate a burger.
If it works for you, go for it. For many the sheer flexibility, reliability, and familiarity of 1Password and its ilk will hold sway. Same goes for Apple Notes versus Bear/Ulysses/1Writer/iAwriter etc. And many other classes of apps.
It’s great (and long overdue) that it exists, though.
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After doing some research and listening to arguments pro and con on this forum, I’ve decided to uninstall 1Password and see how Apple Passwords works on it’s own. I don’t have complicated needs, and most of the “extra” functions people use 1Password for can be easily replicated in locked notes in Apple Notes.
I have a yearly subscription to 1Password that lasts until February, so if I decide I don’t care for Apple Passwords alone, I can easily switch back.
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I’m going to do the same thing once iOS 18 comes out. I think I’ll have better luck getting fam (mom, kids, wife) to use Apple’s app than 1password.
My understanding is that there’s not much difference in functionality between Keychain as it exists now and the new Passwords app. It just makes everything more accessible and adds a few administrative-type features. I have the beta installed on a laptop and ipad.
It already includes shared groups, which I believe you can do in 1Password only by paying more.
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Many years ago in my work I was asked to provide 3 choices of enterprise tool for software configuration management. There were only 2 that had any chance of meeting our needs, so my 3rd choice was “The 3M system”. To give it a more recognisable name — PostIt™ Notes.
It was cheap, flexible, and absolutely up to the task. I don’t doubt you can get by with secure notes, but they do not replicate the different record types in 1Password any more than a PostIt™ note in a locked drawer.
Again… if it works for you, then great. But it is not the same.
I’d be interested to hear how this goes for you. My belief after years of observation and consideration is that the only barrier to adoption in situations like this is whether they want to. It doesn’t matter how simple or complicated — an absence of desire to even do the task will doom the exercise.
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True. Good features can help with the attitude, though. E.g., 1Password’s links to passwords are pretty nice and have made it more appealing in our house. And made my refusal to communicate passwords other ways less annoying (hopefully.)
I’m hoping Apple Passwords comes up with a good flow for that, especially if they can do it without a web app, so Advanced Data Protection users can use it. As the platform owner they could do rich previews of logins in Messages, Safari and Mail.
I will quote my mother, only a few days ago…
Emphasis mine. The subtext there is “don’t make me deal with 1Password.”
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Ah, I only know how to get spouse and children on board. Mother is boss level. 
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