Just installed the Sequoia beta on my secondary Mac. I’ll have to take back my comments about the Password App. It does allow family sharing of passwords. I might be able to switch to it after all and “Sherlock” 1Password. I was surprised that it showed me having 125 passwords already in it.
I suggest you live with the Passwords app for a while before you make your decision.
“It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data.”
- S. Holmes
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Absolutely! I’ve got several months to try it out before it’s out of beta.
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I’ve been thinking about 1Password being Sherlocked. I don’t know that my dropping 1Password might be part of Apple’s Sherlock agenda but instead something far older.
Lately I’ve been having problems with 1Password in Safari clumsily unlocking and also failing to fill login and password fields on some sites that previously worked.
So maybe Apple is just taking from Microsoft’s old playbook, “MS/DOS isn’t done until Lotus 1-2-3 won’t run”? Instead of pulling people to the new Password app they are subtly pushing people away from 1Password?
If I’m really happy with 1Password (and I have been, using it for well over a decade) the inertia alone will keep me paying for it every year, and not consider Apple’s Password.
I doubt that’s the case. Apple doesn’t gain anything financially if people switch to the native password manager, the way MS gained when the industry standard spreadsheet shifted from Lotus to Excel.
In this case, Apple would actually lose revenue (though a small amount by their standards) because 1PW is in the App Store and has in-app purchases.
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I’ve noticed a number of little “paper cut” type things with it as well. On my phone, just this last week it’s made me fill in my password three times, with the explanation each time that my password is required every two weeks.
And 1PW7 on my old Mac Mini seems to function better than 1PW8 on my MacBook Air, for some reason.
I don’t think Apple is intentionally targeting 1PW, but I agree 100% that if the app is working, people aren’t nearly as likely to be exploring alternatives.
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Do you just run 1PW8 on Safari? I don’t have a problem with it on Edge or Chrome.
Safari, Firefox, and Brave.
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The Safari extension’s always been shakier than the Chrome- and Firefox-compatible ones.
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I’ve been very-to-mostly happy with 1Password for years, but if Apple can replicate the core features I use and save me from dealing with the dueling dropdowns in Safari login fields I’m in.
If you are using 1Password, turning off Safari/Settings/Passwords/Password Options/Autofill Passwords and Keychains will end the “duel”.
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Which I suspect, is the vast majority of Apple customers worldwide.
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Many of whom never bother with third party solutions to begin with.
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That’s me. 
I just like pretending I’m a power user. 
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I’m here to second not only the cross-platform use cases, but the cross-Apple Id use cases.
For personal use, I have multiple workstations running macOS, Linux, and Windows that I use cross platform browsers and password managers on. I use my personal Apple Id on my personal iDevices.
For work, I have a separate Macbook and iPhone with their own Apple Id , and iCloud is disabled for security reasons.
1Password(1PW) works great to let me access passwords across these disparate Apple Id’s and operating systems.
I also keep software licenses, drivers licenses, library cards, and more types if data in 1PW . The availability of custom fields is great as I also record the email address and phone number associated with account in the account card. That way when I change those,I know which accounts are affected!
Browsers and notes are special as they can contain personal info that I don’t want on my work computer, or work information that I (and legally can’t) have on my personal computer.
Something like Bettersnaptool could be sherlocked, imho, since I only use the most basic of its features.
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I just like pretending I’m a power user
You have nothing on me in that regard!
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Apple does gain something from someone moving from 1Password to iCloud Keychain: It increase the chance that the user’s next device purchase is from Apple - including the service revenue that entails. (It’s sticky, even though you, of course, can export.)
I don’t think Apple targets things like 1P. But they’ve chosen to lock down things like Safari extensions in a way that only Apple can fix the problems. And Apple have less insentives to fix the problems that only affect their competition.
That 1Password gets blamed for Apple’s bugs is a good example of why it doesn’t hurt Apple as much. People doesn’t move off WebKit (on iOS you can’t) when the Safari extension doesn’t work, they move off 1P.
True, but if critical third-party apps like password managers cease to work reliably, it decreases the chance that those who need or prefer to work across platforms will continue to purchase Apple devices.
That’s especially pronounced in the case of Windows and iOS, because many folks have to use Windows (or in the case of developers, Linux) and merely prefer iPhones. And iPhones are Apple’s most profitable product line.
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Yeah, also true! (What? Can several things be true at the same time!? 
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But I do think Apple tend to prioritise customers who only use Apple devices, hehe.
I’m ambivalent to things pushing people away from WebKit. So I try to not say “just move off of Safari” - because I fear that usually leads them to Blink/Chromium. And I honestly wished the EU said somehing like “you have to support browser engines with less than 40 % market share” or something, instead of just “other browser engines”. 
Could’ve been good for Gecko!
At the same time, Apple’s control over WebKit is way harsher than Google’s on “theirs”. No one else are allowed to create new things, or even fix problems. And also the fact that they say “Yeah, sure - cool if you want to make a WebKit browser! But no, of course you can’t have extensions. Who would want extensions in a browser?? Oh, Safari has extensions? Huh, wierd…” 
But, sorry - I’m going off-topic! Let me reel it back in:
I think I agree with OP here, and that, for instance, Apple hasn’t scherlocked 1Password any more than they’ve already “destroyed” Fantastical, Things and Bear (to keep it not-cross-platform) with Calendar.app, Reminders.app and Notes.app. I guess you could view it as an ocean rising slowly: The apps on the top aren’t in danger - but the most basic ones, close to the shore, might get swallowed in time. I’m more worried for Minimalist than 1Password…
I think this is a case where a thing benefits both Apple and cosumers: As I mentioned, it’s good for Apple if we base much of our workflows on tools only available on their platforms - but it’s also great for consumers that we get a bunch of great software “for free” when we buy Apple products. These free tools are also without ads and tracking, as opposed to what you get from Google. And you have to pay for Office (more powerful, though), but not iWork, etc.