Yeah, that may be the case, but it’s not the density it volume of info in all apps (although this is the case in some) it’s the focus of not having extra “info” on the screen to distract me.
As I said, I’ve not used it and I may love it, but the more distraction free I can make my screen the better for me.
By the way, playing around still, I’ve now got my dock (whichI usually have on the left) auto-hiding (I never liked this before), and this arrangement suits we really well.
It’s a bit like an enlarged, focused, informative dock on the left, with other items still available a bit further left.
I need to dust off my LEAP device. Its tedious to use it though.
I would really just appreciate it if they brought back the desktop grid. The feature they used to call “spaces” before they built mission control. Mission control is a step backwards from what we had and stage manager seems cool, but like a more complicated solution than expose/spaces. Please just give me a grid of desktops instead of a single row and I’ll be happy.
Gary has just pushed this:
So I took the plunge and got Ventura Public Beta installed on my MacBook Air.
Contrary to my own skepticism on this, I actually like Stage Manager. The reason I do is that it makes task modularity the default rule to be excepted only when explicitly declared by the user.
For a long while, I’ve been using a tiling window manager (TWM, in my case Amethyst) and spaces to group apps for different tasks.
While I like this modularity approach, sometimes I forget to open a new space to accommodate a new window for a different task. When you use floating/overlapping windows, it gets messy. When you use a TWM, it just gets smaller.
If we consider the task modularity paradigm is that:
By default, Stage Manager open every new window in its own workspace (not sure about this word, but will use it to separate it from the concept of spaces). It works pretty much as if it opened a new space for each new window. Pairs can be created by moving an existing window into the current workspace.
This changes the defaults to:
This little change in the defaults is allowing me to keep a tidy desktop with much less effort than before.
For TWM folks out there, Amethyst does not work properly with Stage Manager, but Swish works great (except for the resizing of adjacent windows that must be turned off).
I just installed the beta on my iPad. Not going to put it on my Mac until the public release. Using Stage Manager on iPad, I felt real gratitude to the Apple developers who created it - and kept thinking “wow, when Apple gets something right, they really do get it right”.
The use case seems like it would be less compelling on Mac, where I find Moom does everything I want for window management - but still excited to try it in September.
Very well written. I am so looking forward to stage manager in Ventura…
I’ve been running the Ventura beta on my Mac Mini for the last week or so and have barely turned off SM. Not sure how it will fly if I put it on my laptop but so far I like it.
I’ve been testing it on Mac for the first time for about 2 days. I love the extra tool to organize my apps. I’ve gone from 4 desktops to only 2. It was totally intuitive for me, I’d not been on the betas.
I’ve no intention of trying it on iPad until it’s fixed. I will once it gets through the growing pains with an external keyboard (the Smart Keyboard, which I use all the time).
A big thumbs up to this new feature from me 
I read that in someone else’s review of Stage Manager. It’s probably a bug.
I’ve been using it for a few weeks on two Macs at home and had to work on a Monterey iMac in my office yesterday, and i found the absence of Stage Manager exasperating.
I configured it yesterday, and got some nice window layouts in there. And overall, I like it - but with a major caveat.
When I’m on a “stage” and I command-space to open another app, like System Settings, it flashes it for the briefest of moments - and then dumps it behind the window. Basically, it opens the app, realizes that app isn’t part of my current “stage”, and moves it behind whatever I’m working on.
This seems like odd default behavior in response to an intentional user action. Has anybody else noticed this?
Yes i also noticed this behaviour.
SM looks great but for me it is not much different than having a permanent Dock always visible. Not really that useful, although I will probably give it a go for a couple of weeks and see if it sticks.
I have not seen this behavior. Will keep testing.
And to be clear, the issue I was having wouldn’t impact somebody swapping between configured stages - it was just when opening a new app.
I changed the settings to what you have, and it worked. Then I changed them back the way I had them, and it still worked.
Bizarre. Kind of like how I couldn’t resize windows properly until I’d rebooted a couple of times. It feels like there are certain things that just didn’t “take” at upgrade time. Either way, I’m glad that “jiggling the handle” fixed it. 
Thanks!
I’m gonna add this to my toolbox. Maybe try this before a reboot. 
Have you noticed the following?: With Stage Manager on, open Safari and make full zoom, not full screen. Then close Safari window (not Quit) using the red button on top left. Now reopen Safari window. It doesn’t go back to full zoom.
Looks like it’s working properly for me - although I have other window management stuff involved (Moom), so I don’t know if that’s affecting anything … ?
I like Stage Manager, but it takes too much mouse movement to go over to the side of my 27” monitor to click into a different stage. And I have my mouse set decently quick.
The best thing about it is that it pushed me to finally try out Spaces. I have one space for email, messages, main Safari window, task, manager, and a Finder window. And three more, one for each project. Each one of those has its own Word, Finder, and Safari window. I’ve only used it for one day so far, but I think it will really help with my window management. I wish we could name the spaces.
