WWDC 2025 Thread for Discussion

As John Siracusa describes the phone or the ipad, it’s the naked robotic core. Hold it as is, clip it into a keyboard or another accessory.

I don’t see the benefit of having a MBA and an iPad Pro. The Mini and my disk array is perfect as a media server.

I had the 9.7” iPad Pro, switched to the 13” and then onto the 11” ipad Pro.

I love the extra screen on the 13, but I held it a lot and it was heavy.

If money was no object I’d have a 13” and an 11” for different roles.

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So here’s a crazy idea. If, in the unlikely event I was able to make the iPad my primary computer, I could get rid of the MacBook Pro, and use two iPads – 13 inch as a laptop replacement and 11 inch as a tablet. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Agreed! Although “AI” as broadly defined is already built in to Apple’s devices—the computational photography powering the iPhone’s camera is an obvious example.

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I’d use the 13” for media, games and typing at a desk. The 11” would be for browsing, social media and reading articles on the couch.

I’d use the 13” for media, games and typing at a desk. The 11” would be for browsing, social media and reading articles on the couch

I don’t play games or use social media. I’d use the 13-inch iPad much like a laptop—for writing, spreadsheets, Keynote, presentations, and similar tasks. The 11-inch would be for reading, browsing, and general use.

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AI is simply ML by another name.

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If/when you get rid of your Mac do you plan to backup your iPads to the school’s network?

What would be the benefit in using a (second?) iPad as a laptop instead of using a laptop (which you already have?)

I can understand for students (for example) who can’t afford two devices to be able to use an iPad for reading, handwritten notes and writing more effectively with better windowing and multi-tasking. But MacOS, its extensibility and (for now at least) better apps will provide a more comprehensive and flexible desktop experience.

It really isn’t ML and AI are two different things. But I’m not getting dragged any further into that argument again.

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Just like quantum mechanics and relativity are both subfields of physics, LLMs and ML are subfields of AI, which in turn is a subfield of computer science.

No, but I hope to find a way to back them up to my two external drives.

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If Apple will allow background processing for 3rd party apps, perhaps Bombich will rework their CCC Mobile Backup into something that can be scheduled.

I’ll be keeping a “real computer” :wink: because I still need access to a Chrome browser for sites that don’t work properly in Safari. And will continue using Arq.

But if something happens to my MBA I may replace it with a Framework laptop.

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The more I see the liquid glass the more I’m like it’s pretty cool.

Anyone use the preview app in iOS yet? If it’s out.

Also for folders in files can you add emojis to the phone iOS or just on the iPad?

I like all the small changes that didn’t make the keynote. They seem interesting.

I’m not on any beta.

Naked robotic core -had to track down the quote/podcast. WOW - iOS Metaphysics. :slight_smile: Meaning you are as close to being “with” the robotic systems as opposed to external from it and hence you can add/subtract as needed? makes sense to me - sort of.

I can’t quite relate to the Mac Mini concept. I presume it’s a cost/portability benefit ie you get something small and powerful you can take anywhere and plug into a monitor? I can see the appeal but then I think “ well you still have to buy a monitor so why not just get a MacBook?”. Horses for courses I guess.

Add another dilemma to my collection… :rofl:

@nationalinterest, your comment appeals. I live the two iPad lifestyle by happenstance. At one stage I had all 3 in use - 12.9, 11 and Ipadmini (long story) but only use two 12.9 and 11 which I swap when mood takes me or I want to watch a movie.(Ipadmini has been abandoned to a desk drawer). I also have an MBA. My wife thinks I have a tech problem - wouldn’t disagree….

This means a lot of gadgets to keep updated which luckily due to Apples updates is simple but of course it is extravagant, unnecessary expenditure. Secondly, it also means I have a duplicative system (two IPadOs) with the same capabilities except screen size. So an IPad and MBA makes sense.for me.

If IpadOS had a back up system beyond ICloud and I could create and access DMG vaults like on a Mac, I would probably just have one device - a 13” IPad Pro. My workflow is such that I dont need to solve complex mathematical equations, run CAD, design rockets or do quantum physics research, nor am I a content creator. But backups are critical for me (wife) as she runs 1TB photo library which seems to grow faster than a virus.

If anyone cracks the IPadOS back up mechanism, please share! Then I might go to the single IPad lifestyle. Of course I will probably change my mind by tomorrow. But the IpadPro has a “magical” aura to it; productive, aesthetically delightful and adaptable. The MacBook, beautifully built but more like a regular computer ie less exciting. Que “what’s a computer ad”.

@bmosbacker, I look forward to hearing of your success with the backup system!

My opinion hasn’t changed. If anything it’s stronger. Apple’s “liquid glass” doesn’t just required animation and transparency to be merely reduced through the OS accessibility. If it actually ships like this there’s going to need to be tools to completely disable transparency in the name of legibility.