756: Exploring NotePlan with David Roth

In this “back to school” time I am considering giving Noteplan a spin and I have a question regarding sync.

Noteplan says that it supports both CloudKit and iCloud Drive. For interoperability, I favor iCloud Drive instead of CloudKit, but Noteplan recommends Cloudkit for sync predictability. I have been using iCloud Drive for quite a few years and it has its ocassional hiccups but I don’t care much about blazing fast sync as long as it eventually happens.

Has anyone here encountered any issues using Noteplan with iCloud Drive, specially regarding syncing file attachments? My idea would be to use the same iCloud Drive folder I already use with Obsidian and DEVON to see if the three apps can cooperate in terms of note links.

Note that using three apps seem overkill even for a deranged person like me, but Noteplan seems to have superior calendar integration & scheduling capabilities that DEVON lacks and seem too complicated in Obsidian.

I’m using Obsidian with three plugins (Calendar, Templater, and File Cleaner). Honestly, I’m not big on plugins because I mainly use Obsidian just for taking notes. I prefer a simple, no-frills note-taking experience. I use the daily notes feature every day to journal and track my day.

However, I do miss having a proper native app and a good mobile experience. Would Noteplan be a better fit for me?

Trying out noteplan. My work calendar is an outlook calendar. Any way to get that into Noteplan?

I think you will need to add the O365 account to your apple calendar - if you do that you should be able to pick up the outlook calendar in Noteplan. I did it a year or so ago and I don’t recall having any issues.

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Great. Thank you! I’ll try that. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked at that.

It’s in beta. Should release in the next week or so.

In beta. Should release in the next week or so.

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I think it’s hard for anyone to answer that question for you, since they’re not you. :blush:

On the NotePlan website they offer a two-week free trial, or if you subscribe to Setapp it’s already included. I suggest you try it and see what you think.

I’ve found it fits my workflow better than anything else, and I’ve migrated my notes from Obsidian. I enjoy it being a native Mac (and iPadOS and iOS) app. And the experience is so much better on mobile. See my blog post, Why I’m Making the Switch: A Two-Week Journey with NotePlan.

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There have been recent discussions on the NotePlan Discord group about people using iCloud Drive. I’ve considered doing so myself.

I haven’t heard of anyone having issues with iCloud Drive, but that’s just what I’ve read so it’s likely not complete.

The one thing that keeps me from embracing NotePlan at this point, after reading through this thread and watching folks share their experience, is just that the filename isn’t visible and that wiki links are for the title of the note, not the name of the note. I have a lot of notes in Obsidian that don’t have titles, just text (like Bible chapters), and file names are important to me.

Does anyone know if Noteplan is planning to update their support for tables ?
I was unable to find public roadmap or anything related to tables in internet search

Right now tables support is very limited and more importantly they cannot be copy pasted which I usually require a lot during my workflow

Any help in this regards will be highly appreciated

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I have been using NotePlan for a few months—since the MPU discussion. I really like it. But the lack of table functionality is the only area that I keep tripping over. Links, hashtags, maybe some control over column width, etc.

I’m in the trial period and kicking the tires on NotePlan. I like it a lot, but one thing I think I’m missing is integrating habit tracking. How do you do it?

I set up the plugin that comes with NP, but unless I’m missing something, the habit tracker doesn’t recognize a completed task and you have to add a tag to the note to mark it complete for habit tracking purposes?

I keep my habit tracking in NotePlan fairly straightforward. I include a handful of daily habits as Checklist tasks in my Daily Note template. Throughout the day, I work directly from the Daily Note, checking off tasks as I complete them.

If a habit happens at a specific time, I’ll drag the item into the calendar to create a Timeblock. This helps me stay on track and ensures I receive a notification as a reminder.

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I recall from this episode @MacSparky was waiting until December to do a trial of NotePlan alongside Obsidian as a contender for replacement. I’m very curious to hear how that experiment is going.

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And now there is Craft 3 thrown into the mix to further complicate things. :slight_smile:

Craft 3 isn’t a viable candidate if you want to preserve your text long-term, and want to retain all funcitonality offline or online. I tried it and wrote about it: Resisting Craft V3

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I need to ger templater installed and set up, if the native template plugin isn’t good enough.

You should try the web clipper. It works pretty good except for offline usage since it doesn’t download assets that are in the page.

Obsidian works great for making notes accessible on my employer laptop( no icloud) and windows PC.

I tried again by subscribing a month. While I love the app more, I wasted a lot of time to build my system and some bugs are annoying me:

  • Inserting an image which is 2-3MB jpeg will become 15-20MB png. There are workarounds so I have to upload to Files first and copy to the app.
  • Images are lost once, and they become the markdown code. The images disappear on Files app too!
  • The tasks tapped on the bottom right of my phone can disappear until I force quit and restart the app, or go back to sidebar.
  • Some buttons like the note on the list, or the monthly notes, I mean not the note link I generate in my note, can link wrongly. For instance, when you want to open March note, it will open another regular note.
  • Markdown issues with my language.

I love it because search is more reliable, search and link folders is possible, I don’t need to have a very precise date for my task (like months, quarterly…), Cloudkit encryption independent of ADP (which may be unavailable in UK). I know I can report these issues to the developer and believe they are nice, but I don’t really want to spend time on it while using an app.

Apple Notes is already the most reliable one among note taking apps I tried. As @Bmosbacker I can create new folders to include some daily notes or long-term plans which allows more flexibility for me. I am using smart folders to sort out undone checklists so far.

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