I just took another look at SetApp. The 1+4 deal looks much better than it used to be. And there’s a lot of value in there. The latest Hookmark, Craft, Noteplan, Marked, Marginnote, Ulysses…
I guess it’s based on app usage, so something like Noteplan may get a bigger slice of the pie than a rarely used utility. In any case 50,000 users at $2 a month > 5000 users at $10 a month. If it brings in numbers it works, especially given each customer has zero marginal cost.
It’s a formula that pays out your subscription fee something like:
So, Noteplan might be getting 5-50% more revenue from SetApp. A daily driver like NotePlan should be getting more than utilities or a subscription app used in bursts, like Ulysses.
Since SetApp doesn’t provide orders of magnitude more revenue there’s an incentive to keep the retail price honest so developers still get the revenue outside of SetApp.
Muse made an interesting move this year where they joined SetApp and dropped their $40/year tier, so the options are now $100/year or through SetApp. That’s the best example of someone explicitly presenting SetApp as their discount pricing tier.
I was disappointed to see that move. I can see why they did it from their business perspective, but not great from my user perspective. I was about to sign on again but saw the new pricing.
I tried to go back to noteplan about a year ago; search was a mess… Has this improved? Maybe I didn’t give the app a fair shot…. I have a large notes database.
I’m extensively working with NotePlan to see how it might fit in with my workflow. I like it better than Obsidian as a place for my notes, and it handles lists much better than Obsidian (drag and drop to reorder text as opposed to having to cut and paste everything, which is a major pain). It also works great for time blocking since you have your items on one side and a calendar on the other, and you can drag and drop to create time blocks.
I’ve run into a snag - does anyone know how to set a repeating task as indefinite, as opposed to a set number of days? I’ve researched, asked in the Discord group, and can’t seem to get an answer.
I’ve also been testing NotePlan over the past week, and I haven’t experienced any issues with text like you described. Everything has worked as I’d expect, with no glitches.
There is no option for indefinite number of days. Looks like the maximum number of repeats for the Daily option is 366 days.
Thanks for your response. This morning, I got a response from the developer. It’s a planned feature but not available now. He suggested:
Thanks for passing along the workaround. I’m still sorting out where my repeating tasks are going to reside. Not sure if I want them in NotePlan or just keep them in a task manger or some variation.
I’m experimenting with both keeping them in Apple Reminders, and using the @repeat extensions plugin. I’ll see which I like best and use one.
Since I’m time blocking in NotePlan, it would be beneficial to see all of my tasks when in NotePlan, instead of having to look at another app.
Yes. This. Just started using Noteplan in addition to Obsidian. Hasn’t been widely mentioned here, but the mobile experience with Obsidian (of which I was an early user) has deteriorated over time. Was never great, but something with the app or my files has happened recently to make it essentially unusable on my iPhone and iPad.
Just started using NotePlan for daily notes, projects, i.e. “efforts” in the Nick Milo nomenclature; will stick with Obsidian for things that are knowledge stuff rather than project stuff. Great experience so far with Noteplan - fast, reliable syncing after initial experience (strange as I just moved DEVONthink sync away from CloudKit to Bonjour due to sync issues) and very good experience on mobile. Most significant “wish” so far is more granular “folding” within notes (NP only folds at the heading level, and for notes I’ve brought over from Obsidian that’s not the way I had it structured).
I’m a big NotePlan fan, but I don’t like how it handles repeating tasks and over time I’ve transitioned away from how the app handles it. (I’d like to balance this comment by noting that I don’t like how a lot of task managers handle repeating tasks, so NotePlan isn’t unusual in this regard!)
The reason I don’t like how NotePlan handles them is because if you use task counts like I do, they show up as an open task. If you’ve scheduled a repeating task say once a week for the next 60 weeks, that means you have 60 open tasks in your task count. Do this a few times and your task count is now meaningless.
My first step was reviewing my weekly occurring tasks. Some of these I have moved to time blocks in my calendar, which perhaps is where they should’ve been all along. My calendar will just repeat them indefinitely each week, and I can move them if needed.
I also had a set of Monday morning tasks that I used to schedule as repeating tasks. I’ve copied these into a template (imaginatively called… Monday morning) and each Monday I just add the template and then work through the tasks. I saw somewhere online (I forget where) someone had different templates for each day of the week which had tasks specific to that day, which I think is a good idea if you have recurring tasks on specific days of the week.
Next up, I had monthly and quarterly recurring tasks. For these, I have a note at the end of the task that reminds me to schedule the next one. Once I’ve completed the task, I copy it and paste it to the next date I need to do it. For me, this feels a better solution to less frequent recurring tasks. It has also meant I can in advance anticipate days off, weekends, etc, and add the task to a day I know I’m working, which NotePlan can’t do anyway.
I don’t use NotePlan for personal life stuff, except for occasional tasks that I need to do during the day and think I will forget about if I don’t put it in NotePlan. (I have a keyboard shortcut that adds a coloured dot to personal tasks, and a filter set up in NotePlan so I can find personal tasks if needed.)
I agree. Due App and OmniFocus handle repeating tasks really well. Followed by Reminders.
For certain repeating tasks I put them in both Due App (for it’s Critical Alerts and nagging/auto snoozing) and in Reminders so that they show up in NotePlan. Not very elegant.
To my knowledge Due App is the only Task Manager that supports Critical Alerts and a Persistent Nagging option. I wish NotePlan, Reminders & OmniFocus would add those features.
I don’t like how Reminders handles repeating tasks. You can’t postpone them for a day or reschedule them without messing up the repeat. It’s been a few years since I’ve used it now, but IIRC I liked Todoist because it allowed you to count from either the last occurrence of a task or a set date, so that you could accommodate this. It also had a postpone option.
(I might have them confused with another app, but I think Todoist also solved the problem of tasks that need to be completed in a timeframe, e.g. evening, rather than at a set time, by letting you define what counted as evening. This is useful if e.g. you take medication at bedtime, but bedtime varies between 10pm and 1am. You could set the app so that 1am still counts as evening of the day before, so it doesn’t mess up your repeating task. I like this kind of cool implementation as it allows certain task reminders to reflect how we live our lives.)
In case it helps…
In Reminders, you can reschedule a reminder without messing up the repeat, but it depends how the repeat is set up.
For example, you can reschedule a reminder that’s set to repeat on the last day of the month without messing up the repeat. I guess it depends on whether the repeat is a fixed day on the week/month/year or whether it is a defined interval from the current reminder.
Of course, this won’t be possible for every type of recurring task, but I managed to re-frame some of my reminder repeats to make it more possible to reschedule without issues.
After a few days of experimenting, I’ve decided not to use the @repeat extension approach.
It creates too much clutter and mess in my daily note. In order to use the plugin you must turn on the feature that adds a done date to all completed tasks, you must add a “@repeat(?) to the end of all tasks, and either add a header to the daily note or run a script at the end of each day. Too much clutter and overhead for my tastes.
Instead, I’m setting up all my repeating tasks in Reminders. They show up in my calendar. I can drag them into my daily note, and “complete” them on the calendar when I complete the task.
Thanks for sharing your approach. I agree that repeating tasks clutter things up. I do like the idea of creating repeating tasks as part of the Daily Template and having specific templates for each day of the week. I think I saw that in one of Edward’s YouTube videos.
I’m still playing around with the process to see what works best for me. Currently, I’m using a combination of checklists in daily templates for each day of the week for things that aren’t time-sensitive and ToDos in Reminders for repeating tasks that need to get done.
Plugin or not repeating tasks aren’t great in NotePlan, creates too much of a mess.
I didn’t realize that Reminders tasks could be dragged into a note. Don’t know how I missed that. Thanks for the tip.
Visiting Joplin episode when?
After you drag reminders tasks off the calendar into a note, then either use the + in front of the line or the * shortcut to add a task circle in front of it.
You can also click on the reminder task in the calendar to show it as completed. I do so when I drag it into my daily note.