A cautionary tale for those who depend on Gmail, Google Drive, etc

very much a gamer…but only PS5 and my Nintendo Switch. haha

So what are the optimal solutions for “owning” your e-mail? (Sorry if someone can spell it out a bit better)

  1. G Suite account (paid)
  2. Fastmail, Protonmail, Newton? Hey (just like G Suite, a paid email service but not using Google)
  3. Run your own mail server off of a NAS

Is it just these 3? Is one better over the other?

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Optimal? Anything where you control the domain. If you control the domain, you can always pack up your email and move it literally anywhere else in the world. Pretty much everything else is personal preference.

You may be right about that @cornchip

What I said was based on this:

Perhaps, they can say for urgent enquires, please contact us on this email address etc.

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I managed email servers for 25 years so trust me when I say you do not want to run your own server. There are several disadvantages to running your own email server if you are a small to medium size company, and even more for an individual. That’s why most businesses have moved to G Suite or MS365. Even major corporations are closing their data centers and moving to hosted services.

If you want your own personal email address, great. Purchase a domain and pay someone to host it. If you just want email pick one of the large providers. Google has 1.8 billion users, Yahoo has 42.2 million, and Outlook has 34.4 million.

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I don’t get it. How is that another reason?

they tell you your old app has a security issue but haven’t issued a new one seemingly because they haven’t got their privacy labels act together seems a pretty good reason.

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Maybe I’m missing something with how this applies to the general user, but as someone who tries to implement GTD and Inbox Zero principles I find it hard to understand how losing my Gmail would be a problem. The biggest inconvenience would be editing all the sites sending mail there, I suppose. The rest of the account isn’t too irreplaceable either - google photos is a soft backup of my iCloud library, Drive is synced so could be disconnected and extracted from a client computer, and YouTube is just a list of subscriptions to video feeds that could easily be rebuilt.

Did it ever come out why theirs was deleted?

My point earlier in the thread is the common user shouldn’t worry about their account being torched suddenly and without (a known) reason.

Except that is exactly what happened to me. An everyday average user who had done nothing to violate their TOS.

Do you have a bank account that sends emails to your Gmail address? What about PayPal? Other bills or statements? Are your iTunes/App Store purchases connected to an email address that ends with @Gmail/@Yahoo/@whatever that you do not control?

Have you ever tried to change your email address for a website when you don’t have access to the old email address?

It’s up to you whether or not you want to take that chance. Odds are that you won’t have a problem. The odds are that you won’t get into a car accident either, but hopefully you wear a seatbelt anyway.

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I’m not convinced. They fixed that issue.

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Exactly. This is typically true for any type of server, unless you really, really know what you’re doing. :slight_smile:

I’m a web guy, and I’ve had clients ask if they could host their own website over their home Internet to save money. The answer of course is “well…yes, but it’s not a good idea.”

I run a company mail server, and it’s not just the mechanics of the mail serving itself - it’s all the interaction with the rest of the Internet that’s the problem. Just spam and blacklists is enough to drive the average person completely up a wall. :slight_smile:

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For me it would be well beyond “inconvenience” and probably well into “a day or more of work”. My bank, for example, that insists on sending me an email every other time I log in. Not a problem, but it would require a phone call if I couldn’t access the email. As TJ mentioned, multiply that by all the places that you’d have to change, and it turns into a Very Large problem.

And that doesn’t count the fact that people have presumably been corresponding with you at that email address, so that’s the address they’ll be sending to if they want to continue the conversation - whether that’s a day from now or a year from now.

Your mileage may vary, of course - but for a software dev I can see this being a very big deal.

But that was really the only problem in the first place.

Just to be clear about the issue at hand. Was this a g suite or gmail account? It looks like it’s the regular gmail account. I wonder if google can terminate a g suite account as easily?

I moved my domains from Network Solutions to Hover sometime in the last 10-ish years. If Hover has ever tried to sell me anything, I can’t remember it. I get email notices whenever a domain is up for renewal. That’s about it. I also got great support (can’t remember if it was phone, chat, or email) when I needed help doing whatever the MX thing is that moved my email domains from Network Solutions to Hover.

I’ve never used GoDaddy, but I can say that the move from Network Solutions to Hover was a significant improvement in terms of that kind of thing — feeling in control of my own stuff and not constantly worrying that I’m going to get charged for something I don’t need.

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So did I. I called Hover, told them what I wanted to do, gave them my NS login info and they handled everything. It took a few days to complete the process, and I had to respond to an email or two from NS, but Hover would email me telling me what to expect and how to respond. Great service.

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Just like Apple! :wink:

Right, I mean its not like they would mysteriously disable a Presidential Candidates Adsense account at the peak of their popularity… oh wait…

Big Tech is a big problem. Take off the blinders.

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Not to mention against the TOS on most “home” internet connections.

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Isn’t the problem that the app is known to be insecure? It sounds like an issue of “we updated the app on other platforms, but not iOS. Instead of updating on iOS, we’ll just hide the warning that it’s dangerous to use the app.”

Feels kind of like going to a mechanic shop because the engine temp light is on, and having them fix the problem by unplugging the light. :slight_smile:

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