A great overview of the Zettelkasten method (with some personal observations)

What are you looking to get out of it? I can drum up some resources and put something together possibly.

Good question. For decades, 80%+ of my note taking has been focused on what was needed for work, either directly or for indirect research. That’s ending. I don’t owe anyone my thoughts for hire anymore, and I’m reading now for myself, spending more time with analog books, and focused on broader research topics that I’ve backlogged for years. I’m casting a lot of nets widely and want to focus now on notes that have no “purpose”. In due course, incremental formalization will come to play and I’ll be looking for emergent structure – but not now. I’m experimenting with approaches, but I don’t want to invest in someone’s course and be disappointed because it’s probably focused on a phase of lifework that is not relevant to me. I think I have to invent this approach on my own – it is NOT going to be z – borrowing here and there and tossing technique overboard if not useful.

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This is the approach I’ve taken — I’ve ham-fisted together a smattering of Zettelkasten, Evergreen Notes, and my own methods. It works well for me. Just like GTD, going hardcore for a methodology here is only going to work for a very small portion of the population, in my mind.

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Thank you @justindirose. Andy M’s evergreen note approach fits easily into TheBrain – especially with the new features of TheBrain 12. Note making in TheBrain is getting closer to the approach to note making in Obsidian (and Roam I suppose, but I don’t go there). The main difference is, in Obsidian the graph is an adjunct, high altitude view. In TheBrain, everything is done while inside the graph.

I digress from the point of this thread. Sorry.

So: yes, definitely. (I got it cheaper than it seems to be now, I think the prices have been raised a little.) Still cheaper than BASB and a hundred times better.

You can either spend months trying to figure out the Zettelkasten method on your own and tailor it to your needs, by reading forums, watching YouTube videos, seeing what other people do… or take the LYT workshop. Which, by the way, goes way beyond classical Zettelkasten workflows. There’s a lot of material in there that’s openly available (Nick Milo himself shares a lot of it freely through the LYT kit) but two things made me love the workshop:

First, Nick is super available, genuinely wants everyone to have a great time and get value out of the workshop, and invests a lot of energy into crafting a true community (never seen this in any online workshops I’ve taken). It’s not: here’s the forum, I’ll drop by every few weeks, have fun; he genuinely watches, interacts and answers in depth.

Then, it makes you work and think. It’s the polar opposite of BASB which basically says: here’s how you do it. LYT does not tell you how to do it, it tells you why you want to do it, and how you might do it. No PKM is the same, depending on the needs of people, and LYT embraces that to describe fluid frameworks that build on the Zettelkasten method and go way beyond. But you have to put in the work and thought to make things yours. LYT embraces the fact that managing knowledge, first and foremost, is about the will to put time and energy into your own ideas, that it’s a dedicated practice and there is no shortcut to doing it. There, are however, ways to make it blossom with good thinking reflexes and approaches. That’s what matters.

To me, it’s the GTD of knowledge management. It’s simple, efficient, elegant, and even the ideas can almost readily be found for free. But it’s the approach and dedicated practice that the workshop sets up that makes all the difference: it hides a depth that only a personal journey will uncover. LYT takes into account that variability and that’s the opposite of the parlor tricks of BASB. LYT wants you to think and work for yourself. I love it. But, caveat: I think the workshop only gives its full value if you do your best to work deeply through it. That means: do all the exercises, answer all the questions, participate in all sessions. I had 1-2 days per week of solo practice devoted solely to LYT on top of the live sessions, and I think it’s needed to really be able to get the full value out of it and be able to move forward by asking your questions and meditating the difficulties that arise out of your own practice and needs.

There’s a thread on Reddit with other comments if you’re interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/ObsidianMD/comments/kvz9cz/does_anyone_here_have_opinions_on_linking_your/

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