E-Ink in 2025: What's everyone using?

Just an update to this for transparency, I ended up returning the Remarkable Paper Pro. Nothing against the device, but we ended up having some vehicle issues that led to a very unexpected new car purchase last weekend so I returned it while I could. With the car, I definitely will only be able to buy one “big” fun purchase this year and I want to see what the Switch 2 is before I spend my now limited funds.

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Sorry to hear about the need to upgrade your car with limited warning, hope that’s the end of any bad luck for you.

My reading/consumptions devices currently:
iPad Pro 12.9” M1
Kindle Oasis from 2016 (still going strong)
MacBook Pro M3 14”

Currently I’m thinking that a Kindle Scribe could wedge in and replace the Oasis, just to avoid using reading glasses that I avoid using (age is creeping up on me). Problem is they aren’t available anywhere in Australia to do a hands on.

I thought about an iPad mini or Pro 11”, however one of my key use cases is as a second screen when working mobile (universal control / sidecar) so investing in a second iPad seems like a waste. Also note taking on iPad is really a bit ordinary iMHO.

Supernote Mantra looks great, however I’d love a backlight as reading would be a key use case.

Remarkable is expensive, but it is a joy to use (I’ve had a few sessions of use), however I’d take the contrast and clarity of kindle Paperwhite/scribe any day over colour eink with current tech.

Kobo I’m not sold on, they seen lower quality and the colour ones suffer from limited contrast, let’s hope colour eink tech can jump over these issues.

Happy to take some thoughts from the hive mind.

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I’m drawn to the Kobo Sage as a digital notebook. But I would like to play with one in the wild first before I commit to one

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A 2013 Kindle Paperwhite, and an older one that I lost for a time and found after I had purchased a new one. :grinning:

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Now that Amazon have said they are removing the ability to back up your books to your computer - I have downloaded all my Kindle books and will see if I can “back them up” with Calibre in some way.

This has meant that I will need to find an alternative e-ink device.

I did have a “normal” Kindle and a Kindle Paperwhite (both ancient, charge by the infuriating micro-usb and will hardly keep a charge) but I have to find something else now. Unfortunately money is quite tight at the moment - and I recently bought a MacBook Pro 14" so sadly no more reMarkable and such like. I do have an iPad mini 6 … but that’s not ideal.

I do miss e-ink - but I prefer paper. Luckily I have been buying less and less from Amazon in general - I don’t like the way all the local bookshops have shut down, and maybe too late I have decided that Jeff Bezos has enough money and more needs to be spent at other retailers.

Anyway - apologies for my general anti-Amazonism, I hope it’s not too off topic.

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Just noting that Kobo seems to be located in Canada.

I love my Kindle paperwhite and kindle scribe, and I love the iPhone, iPad and Mac apps, and the whisper sync between kindle and audible versions. I love the daily kindle book deals where I catch several bargains a week. I love that, with my UK audible account, I can buy 50 audiobooks a year, often for less than the cost of the kindle equivalent. I love that I can buy so many non-fiction books for my work at amazingly cheap prices, compared to the paper version.

I love how Amazon has made all of this possible.

And … best of all … I even read some of the books I buy!

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+1

I have 505 books (kindle & audible), and I haven’t started 29% of them. But I have a plan. For the past seven years I’ve been using an iPad as my main computer and my Mac has been used as a file/backup server.

Now it’s also my television since my TV died three months ago. A 13 inch screen is large enough to watch/listen the news from 5 - 8 am while I’m doing other things, and watch an hour or two of something in the evenings.

I’ll eventually purchase another TV, perhaps when I’ve read 20 or 30 books. But right now I really don’t miss it.

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For all its faults Amazon probably has done the most to keeping books an important part of our cultural landscape. Though they have done untold damage to other outlets.

I’d guess 95% of the books I’ve purchased in the last 19 years came from Amazon. The rest came from local shops or were purchased used from abebooks.com.

But Walmart may have done more damage to more businesses. Clothing, hardware, etc. and now they are the largest grocer in the US.

Dollar general is coming in finishing off any local grocer that survived unfortunately.

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We own an iPad 10th gen (with pencil) and my wife loves it so much that it became hers exclusively.

After reading this thread, I bought her a Remarkable Paper Pro (color) with pen and keyboard, and she looooves it. She is generally an analog person, and the remarkable is right up her alley. It’s elegant, and very well produced.

Now she uses both devices… not sure what to try next to get my hands on an iPad of my own…

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I am most looking forward to getting a Remarkable.

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Using a Kobo Libra H2O purchased back in 2020. It’s been solid so far, and I recently switched to the Japanese store front for books in Japanese :grin:. Only problem was the back power button, where the rubber making contact with the electronics completely disintegrated. I had to open it up and put something in as the padding.

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I’ve been using the Tab Mini C too. Great device, much better for night-time reading than my iPad mini.

I’m not in the Amazon ecosystem hence having an e-ink device that side-loads ebooks easily and runs Android made me take the plunge on e-ink. Before Boox, I only knew Kindle and Kobo, and maybe Remarkable — all of which don’t side-load easily.

Amazfit’s range has a battery operation period of about two weeks - longer than my Pebble Time during its peak. They’re not e-ink and they’re not Apple Watch, but they track walks, track sleep, and can pester you with notifications.

I recently got a Kobo Sage, and really like the build quality of the device. I also have the battery cover and pen (which I only use for highlighting, not notes).

I’m super happy with the clarity of text and speed of the OS. I also like the leather cover and physical buttons, and the adjustable backlight.

The store is also great, with a lot of offers on ebooks and audio book credits for the same monthly cost as Audible.

I am still using the Paperwhite Signature 11th Gen. It’s a fantastic kindle. I pre-ordered the Colorsoft but it had the yellow banding issue at the bottom so I sent it back. According to the recent reviews it is still an issue.

Edit: argh… just realized I had already replied to this thread. Apologies.

I’ve had a Kobo Aura HD since they were released (about 10 years IIRC) and I’ve liked it. I just switched up to a Kobo Libra Colour in the hope of a better screen ; it’s definitely an improvement, but nit as much as one might expect after that length of time. I thought of the Clara BW which is a little better (so I understand), but a 6” screen doesn’t do it for me. I don’t care about colour or annotating, but 7” with buttons is very nice.

I don’t want to be caught in the Amazon ecosystem (I especially resent the thought that my books could be removed) and the Kobo/Calibre combination fits me well.

If you’re flexible about e-ink being a requirement, there’s the Daylight Computer - an Android-powered tablet that doesn’t use E-ink but a proprietary reflective LCD display they call “Live Paper”. You get a fast refresh rate (60hz) like a normal display has at the expense of slightly worse contrast, and no color option like the Remarkable Pro. It still looks good in the sun but not as good as e-ink. But I really like what the company is doing with their approach to “slow computing.”

I have a gen-1 reMarkable but it mostly collects dust. The E-ink display is just too slow and the CPU is underpowered for large, graphically intensive PDFs… I love my Kindle paperwhite as a single purpose book reading device. I rarely buy any books from Amazon, I mostly use it with rented library books, but I certainly won’t be buying Amazon books in the future with their decision to prevent you from downloading and owning your own ebooks.

If I were to buy something to replace to reMarkable it would probably be the Daylight DC-1.