End of the road for 1Password 7. Where to next?

Fear is a heck of a way to make a living.

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ok, so there’s a sleeper hack embedded in my iPhone, uncaught by any iOS update, for years - and they have done absolutely zero with my identity or finances? So what’s the purpose for it? And do I care?

Not that I’m giving you the premise. Just speculating here.

Right. I think you helped me make my point. Neither you nor I had to deal with these issues, Apple did. In the meantime, were either of us hacked using these theoretical exploits? No, because we’re not targets. Who is? It was in the article:

" That said, such weaknesses have been historically leveraged as part of highly-targeted intrusions to deploy mercenary spyware on the devices of dissidents, journalists, and human rights activists, among others." (highlighting mine)

I’m not in any of those groups. If they ever start targeting retired expats then holler at me…

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IS there any official news about the fact that the browser plugins will stop working? I have to use 1password 7 because 1password 8 does not seems able to autofill password with Italian keyboards, so that would be quite annoying…

iCloud Keychain worked for us. Wasn’t hard to migrate. Even my wife is fine with it which is always a litmus test. A bit kludgey for secure notes - settled on title.note for the website it wants you to enter. Lets me search “note” to find quickly. Syncs seamlessly across across everything and the Passwords shortcut launches it quickly if needed. Biometric recognition is fast. Don’t need any browser plug ins. Can generate secure passwords automatically. I expect it to migrate and improve with new features as OS advances. Feels like Apple might make a dedicated passwords app at some point. Have to remember to pass new passwords to spouse since you can’t share otherwise, but airdrop is quick. And no extra $$$! Satisfied with the setup.

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Yes:

PS: Only the classic extension will stop working.

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In the nicest, most tongue-in-cheek way possible, posts on 1Password are this forum’s equivalence to kitten pictures on facebook

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Secrets v4 is on the way. Looks like biometric vault unlock and shared vaults are the main new features. And an optional (for now at least) subscription model…

That makes the assumption that it actually works. In my case I’ve yet to get TouchID to even register my fingerprints, no matter which finger or hand I use. There is a wealth of material for a series of mystery/spy stories based on touch ID (and similar biometric validation methods) where, contrary to popular opinions, they fail miserably.

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OK, let me rephrase that. TouchID unlocked my iPhone 6S on the first try virtually every time. FaceID on my iPhone 11 seems to fail half the time, but to be fair it’s probably only fails one time out of four. TouchID may or may not be more secure but it was more reliable at unlocking my devices.

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I’ll rephrase mine, Touch ID works for some people flawlessly, for others it never works. I’m in the later group. It can;'t identify my fingerprints at all, ever. No matter what I’ve tried.

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I’ve read that pineapple pickers are in the same boat. But I’m guessing they don’t grow a lot of pineapples in Colorado.

Maybe FaceID doesn’t work that great on early Boomers like me. :grinning:

Good news, IMO. It’s currently vying with Enpass as my 1P replacement - the new features might just tip the balance.

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No. Electron apps have a measurable impact on battery life. You might not care about it but for people who need to carry their MacBook around all day it makes a difference. And it sums up.
There are other good wrappers that do a way better job but the Chrome way is the easiest and cheapest. And people will blame Apple because of their battery drain and not Chrome, Electron or anyone else. Just google for it. There is a reason why a new MacBook has 20% less battery life with chrome than with safari.
You don’t care about it because you are plugged in all day? Fine. But don’t look down on people who depend on their battery lasting for one more hour.

No. Because MacOS doesn’t provide any software with Electron. Or any half baked reskinned browser app. The OS does provide a lot of very good native and energy saving apps. You don’t miss anything the OS provides by not using an Electron app.

First you say all people are complaining us Electron which you don’t care about because you are using an iMac. And then you claim that people are just angry about subscriptions. No. It’s the whole sum of wrongdoings by the company. It’s not just electron. Or changing to subscriptions. It’s the shady business practices, it’s the switch from private user to corporate users, it’s the whole package. It’s their broken promises and their attitude why people are looking for alternatives.

You are right. It is your opinion. In my honest opinion, 1PW WAS best in class. I couldn’t be happier with Bitwarden on Linux and Apples Passwords on my MacBook and iPhone.

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Well looks like the password sharing issue is getting addressed in iOS 17.

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And not just for family, you can share with anyone else with an Apple ID.

If only it was cross platform too.

Apple is a marketing genius and they avoid cross-platform support even when it prevents most of their software from being used by businesses.

But it doesn’t seem like I can share my password from differing locations like I can with 1PW vaults.

Shrug, you don’t ask, you don’t get.

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OP here. Here’s where I’ve landed, for now at least…

The free 1Password 8 for Families subscription that’s available to me by virtue of a paid subscription for work has swayed me to stick with 1P. I could have made Secrets work, but I got my dad using 1P several years back and he’d find the change a lot harder. I’m not crazy about having to sync via their servers, but their security practices seem pretty robust.

I’m not buying the whole “Electron = terrible” argument. I’ve found the client to perform just as well as the native 1P v7 client. 1P is much better behaved than the Slack client. You never spend more than 30 seconds at one time in 1P anyway. It’s not completely Mac-like, but it’s easy enough to find your way around.

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