Have I Been Too Willing to Give Apple a “Pass” for Flawed Apps, or Do I Just Need Coffee? ☕️

I realize the work week seems long, but 20 days/week seems a touch hyperbolic. :rofl:

I do love the email integration feature of Omnifocus. I just find the rest of the app a bit “heavy,” for reasons I have a hard time articulating. I’m playing with it again though because I think the UI/perspective customization features might be able to get me where I need to be.

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You think?! :rofl: I meant 5-10/day x 20 days/month. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’m also flirting again with OF. I don’t find it “heavy.” The main reasons for reconsidering it are the ability to email to OF and the Review function. While I can perform a weekly review in any task manager, the built-in functionality in OF makes it much easier, especially because you can adjust the review frequency by project.

And, as I’ve posted elsewhere, I’m still experimenting with separating my personal and professional tasks (Reminders/OF), email (Gmail, Mimestream/Apple Mail), and notes (Apple Notes/DEVONthink) into separate apps. I’ve not made a final decision regarding this.

I always end up back with Omnifocus. I use other apps for a period of time to try things out (Things, Reminders, Taskpaper, Noteplan) but end up back in Omnifocus. (All of those apps I mentioned are great and everyone should try them out!)

There are three things that keep me with Omnifocus.

  1. It does require a degree of focus to interact with it. I like that in some tools – this is one case where a touch of “friction” is good for me. It’s the equivalent of doing my expenses and budgeting. When I’m using it I want it to have my full attention.

  2. The control over the UI and buying the version that allows you to create your own perspectives is great. In general it makes it very easy for me to keep things simple.

  3. It works just as well for big project planning and repeated chores/checkins. I find other tools tend to excel at one or the other. Omnifocus seems to handle both very well.

I have a couple of HUGE caveats though:

  1. My daily job is 100% Windows based. Nothing work related touches my MacBook or other devices. So I don’t use Omnifocus at all for work. That means I’m a LOT looser with my needs and requirements than a lot of people on this forum.

  2. Because it’s just my personal life/hobbies I’m tracking, it’s very easy for me to swap back and forth between systems. If I want to use Noteplan for a month or two, or go all-in on Reminders for a bit I can. There’s almost no barrier to switching for me.

I’ve actually settled in that I’ll be switching from time to time. I’ve noticed when I have lots of small tasks or my time is really eaten up with helping other family members, I tend to switch over to Reminders for a bit. When I have more time for my own stuff I’ll usually make my way back to Omnifocus.

And every so often I play around with Taskpaper or Noteplan just because I like those apps.

If my job was done on a Mac it would probably be a big fight between NotePlan and Omnifocus.

Converting an email into an actionable task seems simple enough: Outlook does it, Gmail does it, Omni does it, Cultured Code does it, Todoist does it. Why Apple cannot do it in a consistent and reliable way?

I think the reason is the aversion of Apple to do stuff in the server side, probably due to its value proposal of local first privacy. It should be as simple as forwarding the email to a random @reminders.apple.com email address!

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Why Apple cannot do it in a consistent and reliable way?

Exactly, which is why I wonder if we give Apple too much of a pass because we are fans. :thinking:

Is this why they haven’t ever implemented a true snooze on Apple Mail? That requires server side operation to truly work?

I would suspect so, but the worse thing is that Apple could only achieve that for iCloud mail servers, not Gmail or Office365 which are more popular.

I honestly think that the last real growth space for Apple (at the scale that Apple wants to grow) is to be a real cloud competitor against Azure, Google Workspace and AWS and bring the servers in house.

If they can figure out how to be a Cloud competitor but also private, that is a game changer. Otherwise their web offerings will continue the feel slightly half-baked.

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I beg to differ with that statement. Almost every app I know of has issues with iCloud at least some of not most of the time.

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To be honest, I believe the varying outcomes of the two methods for linking reminders with email messages are not intended by the software developer but rather a bug in the software. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Its wierd, in context of Ulysses, IA writer seems to sync so flawless.

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Agreed. My particular frustration is Photos app.

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I really wish OF integrated with Fantastical, similar to reminders.

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After the latest ios/mac update, the Ulysses sync has gotten noticeably worse, at least for me. Newly created sheets does not appear on other devices…takes hours…I never thought it would become a problem, but now it is.

It is sad. It doesn’t really matter if this is the fault of Ulysses, Apple, or both. It is critical that we be able to depend on our writing apps. Ulysses is one of my favorite apps, but I can’t use it because I can’t trust it.

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Almost everything we have read about iCloud is probably true. Some people have “never” had a problem, others have. If you search the web, or this forum, you will find the problems people had when iCloud was introduced are basically the same problems people complain about today.

I’ve been using iCloud since day one and haven’t had a single problem with it.

iCloud Photo Library “uploading” for over a week

Missing iCloud Drive folders

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I purchased Hookmark so that this sort of thing doesn’t happen. I have found it useful even outside of Mail.app for linking (hooking) things together in links that don’t break.

I’ve been intrigued by Hookmark, given how everyone raves about it. And it would solve some of my problems. I have two concerns:

  1. There is no an iOS version (I’m thinking I read somewhere that it may be coming or has already been released?). Hookmark would be useless to me without compatibility across devices.
  2. I assume that if I stop purchasing each year and the app stops working as a result of an OS upgrade, my links would be broken. Is that accurate?

Also, having never used the app, I don’t know if I would use the Pro features. :thinking:

According to Gemini (I have not verified this):

Hookmark App Questions

  1. iOS Version: Yes, Hookmark for iPhone and iPad has been released. It acts as a companion app to the macOS version. You can use it to:

    • Bookmark anything with a URL.
    • Sync bookmarks with your Mac (requires iCloud Sync to be enabled on both devices).
    • View bidirectional links created on any device.
    • View pinned items.
    • Open bookmarked items in their respective iOS/iPadOS apps if the app and data are available on the device.

    For example, if you bookmarked a task in OmniFocus on your Mac, you can tap the bookmark in the iOS Hookmark app, and it will open in the OmniFocus app on your iPhone or iPad. Similarly, links to notes in apps like Craft or Obsidian, or web pages in Safari or Chrome, will open in those respective apps on your mobile device. Even email links bookmarked on your Mac can be opened in the Mail app on your iPhone or iPad.

  2. Link Functionality After Subscription Ends: If you stop purchasing the annual upgrade for Hookmark on macOS and it stops working due to an OS update, the behavior of your existing Hookmark links depends on the version of Hookmark you have.

    • “Buy Once, Own Forever” License (Standard or Pro): According to Hookmark’s pricing policy, if you purchased a Standard or Pro license, you own that version of the software forever and can continue to use it. The annual upgrade purchase is for access to software updates released within 12 months of your license activation.

    • Functionality Without Updates: If you choose not to renew your updates license, you can continue using the last version of Hookmark that was released within your 12-month update period. However, if a future macOS update introduces incompatibilities with that older version of Hookmark, the application itself might stop working.

    • Link Persistence: Even if the Hookmark application stops functioning, the Hookmark links themselves are essentially URLs (some of which might use a custom hook:// scheme, while others might use the app’s native linking scheme).

      • Standard URLs (e.g., https://, mailto:): Links that use standard URL schemes should still be functional as long as the target resource exists and the corresponding application on your Mac can handle that URL type. For example, a Hookmark link to a webpage will still be a valid web address.
      • Custom hook:// URLs: Links that use Hookmark’s custom URL scheme (hook://) rely on the Hookmark application to interpret them and redirect you to the linked resource. If the Hookmark application is no longer working, these links will likely not open automatically. However, Hookmark has stated that they aim for interoperability and that in the unlikely event of the company ceasing operations, users would be allowed to use the trial mode (which has export functionality) to potentially retrieve the underlying file paths or URLs associated with these links. There are also AppleScripts available that can extract file paths from hook://file/ URLs.

    In summary: While standard web and email links created by Hookmark should remain functional, the custom hook:// links are dependent on the Hookmark application. If the app stops working due to lack of updates and OS incompatibility, these links will likely not open directly. However, there might be ways to extract the underlying linked information.

To users of Hoomark: Does that sound right?

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In terms of licensing, that seems reasonable because the developer cannot predict which changes Apple will introduce in the next OS release. But to be fair, these changes do not happen that much. It’s more usual that the app doesn’t run because it complains that the OS is older than the other way around.

In technical terms, it’s accurate and you would need to do some sort of scripting to achieve that. Not fun (and I happen to have a very particular definition of fun) but not impossible. I think if that was the case, I would pay the license for another year.

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