I use Obsidian to take lots of notes on books and other reference material. I’m having a tough time trying to figure out how best to use links in a scenario like this:
I read a book that contains multiple things I’d like to reference in MOC’s or other notes.
Example: a book about copywriting. I might want to highlight material from the book (in my own summary) that are good examples of things like:
-headlines
-stories
-emotion
and so on. In the past I’ve just used tags and that’s fine I suppose but then it’s just a catalog of things.
Where I’m struggling is say I have a Copywriting MOC open, if I pull in linked mentions from the page containing the book review and drag the linked reference into the MC it simply lists the link as the title of the book review note.
In apps like Roam or Logseq in brings in the specific piece of information I put the link next too. In Roam I can even edit it and have it update in its original location.
Is this not possible in Obsidian or does anyone have a suggestion on what I might be doing sub-optimally?
Thanks for the link but I don’t think that’s what I’m looking for.
2 pages in Obsidian
Book Review “A Book about Writing” (Note 1)
Copywriting (Note 2)
When writing my book review I write about a key highlight I want to reference as a good copywriting reference.
In Roam if I put a [[copywriting]] next to a string of text in Note 1, it shows up as a backlink in Note 2 (Copywriting). So the direction starts in Note 1 and goes to Note 2. In Roam I can drag that backlink into the body of Note 2 and manipulate it.
Seems like in the Link to Blocks Obsidian help page, you are in Note 2 and searching for something in Note 1 to insert into Note 2
In Obsidian, if I’m in Note 1 and I write [[copywriting]] next to a string of text, it shows up as a backlink in Note 2. However, if I drag the reference into the Note 2 body from the Linked Mentions it just displays as the title of Note 2, rather than the specific text [[copywriting]] is next to.
Here’s what it looks like when I drag it it, I"m seeking to get “This is what I want to see in the other note” text here instead of the note title. Roam does this and logseq too.
Hm, I don’t think that exists in Obsidian. There may be a plugin for it but I’m doubtful about that as well - it goes pretty far against normal Markdown.
I think transclusion may bring what you are looking for. From inside Note 2, if you do ![[Note 1^]] and search for [[copywriting]], it should properly embed the text next to the link.
Thank you for this. But this wouldn’t show the “System 1 thinking can lead to irrational decision-making behaviours, such as loss aversion.” ^r79rjb" at all in the backlinks pane for the Copywriting page correct?
I know everyone manages knowledge differently but for me personally this creates some friction/additional processing in the backlinking process that I was wishing to avoid by hoping I was missing something. Alas, I don’t think I was.
Although instead of dragging and dropping I suppose I could look at the backlinks pane and if I wanted to include something from Book Review into Copywriting I could just use the
![[Book Review^searchForTheBlockHere]] use the carrot inside that and find the reference manually. It’s not that laborious to do it that way. And if I wanted to edit it I could just open it to the right or some such.
I agree with @derekvan — I think this is a artifact of your workflow from Roam. If you like Obsi for other reasons, you can probably find alternatives for this workflow if you rethink it at a higher level.
My view is that a MOC is ordered in any way the user sees fit while a TOC is ordered in the order in which the items appear. Think chapters in a book or paragraphs in a file.
So I can have my AnimalTrakker MOC with the things that are currently most important or that I am currently working on at the top and the other stuff below. Meanwhile I use a TOC note to handle the ordering of chapters in my NaNoNovel because I want to see them in reading sequence and see how the entire book flows.
MOCs aren’t anything mysterious or revolutionary. It’s a primary note that links to other notes – a dashboard if you will. It can have elements of a note, table of contents, glossary, index, even tasks. Whatever puts the information you need at hand, and shows you where you want to go for more info.