Me too! The K860 without numpad would be me sorted, I think. I wonder why they don’t but I guess that the market just isn’t big enough. But I’ve always enjoyed the Logitech peripherals otherwise.
I see from another thread that @Pupsino also uses the Alice layout so will take the liberty to tag them here and ask how they are getting on with it.
I’ve been curious about the Alice layout. It’s missing the rise in the center that you get with an ergonomic keyboard like the K860 and the MS Ergonomic (which I have remapped for Mac).
The rise adds to the neutral hand position, but the Alice layout (which I’ve never used) is likely still a lot better than a straight keyboard. The Q10 appears to be wired only, and I’ve come to like the bluetooth and easy switching between three devices (and 3 year battery life) on my K380s, which the K860 also has.
Thank you! I was hoping that’s the case with Alice layout. The Keychron apparently also connects to up three devices but I am unsure if it’s swappable like the Logitechs – which I agree is very useful. I have the Logi K811 and MX Keys mini, which both have that feature, and so I move between the MBP and iPad routinely.
Your comment puts the MS Ergo back on the menu, too – I’d discarded as fixed for Windows but maybe with remapping… at least it comes without that wretched num pad 
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I’m using a K8 Pro with my Mac Studio, and this, the K3 Pro with my Windows work laptop. On the same desk. And I use the K3 as a travel keyboard (was just out at Glacier NP, one week working, one week playing).
Thanks for letting me know – and apologies, I didn’t know.
No apology needed, he’s just no longer active on this forum sadly.
I am on an Alice! Probably for over a year now given the date on my other post. Doesn’t time fly!
TL;DR Alice might be good for you if you have hand issues. At the very least, it probably won’t make things any worse than a regular keyboard would.
I went to an Alice originally because I wasn’t convinced I’d be happy with a full split. My main concern with a full split is that you can’t fix how far apart the two halves are. I touch type and I think the two halves varying in distance regularly as I move things on my desk is going to make typing annoying. (I’ve not tested it to be sure, but I’m guessing it’s like when you try a keyboard with a slightly different layout and type gibberish until your hands find the right place to sit.)
Now I’ve tried an Alice I don’t think I will go back to a regular keyboard, and I think I’ve found keyboard nirvana.
I built my own custom keyboard, but the suggested layout is the same as the Keychron one (fn was in the same place on mine too, I see @brookter querying that but I think it might be standard?). Anyway I re-mapped the left thumb key next to the space bar to be the option key. I trigger Alfred and various hotkeys with OPT so it made sense for me. (I’m not sure I’d ever re-map shift, cmd, etc. My fingers wouldn’t like the change!) I also re-mapped the 3 keys on the right which I think are delete, page up and page down on a standard Alice layout. I have little need for those and I needed to appease the little demon on my shoulder that wants a Stream Deck, so I mapped them for a couple of apps I use a lot. Turns out this is very useful. If anything it’s a shame an Alice layout doesn’t have more obsolete keys I can re-map to useful things!
My keyboard has quite a good incline across the two halves, and I have the board tilted on risers. I don’t have rsi but I get wrist and finger pain (muscular not joint). I don’t think the angle and tilt of the board has made much difference to my hands (I think angle might help with neck and shoulder pain if you have that though?), but the key layout is definitely more comfortable for me. I can feel the difference whenever I switch back to an Apple keyboard and have to straighten my hands.
Regarding switching: I’ve not noticed any “lag time” in my brain. My hands know if I’m at my Alice keyboard or a regular keyboard.
Alice keyboards are annoying if you are typing one-handed, e.g. you’re holding a drink and typing (tut tut) / you’re on the phone and trying to pull something up quickly / you’ve broken your arm. If you type one-handed a lot you should ask yourself whether the Alice is a good idea (you should also ask yourself why you’re doing it a lot! Put your drink down, get a headset, or if it’s a permanent issue explore one-handed keyboard set-ups instead!).
I can’t think of anything else I would’ve liked to know beforehand, but ask if you have any questions!
That’s an advantage of ergonomic keyboards like the Logitech K860 and MS Ergonomic. They have the center rise but are one piece. I need to try an Alice at some point to see if it’s enough without the center rise.
Thank you - I love your detailed reply. I’ve just bought my Keychron K15 Pro with brown switches, and just for good measure added a bag of red switches, too. I don’t really know how linear/tactile will feel. I think blue doesn’t appeal to me – too clickety and I work in archives from time to time so people would probably start throwing things at me. I am not in it for the sound anyway (and doing my YouTube research was amazed by the number of people recording videos of their clicks as a way to decide what to buy).
My thinking on the 5 M(emory) keys on my K15 keyboard was exactly yours – that it would allow me to map some common commands via Alfred and would keep my Streamdeck curiosity at bay.
I am dipping my toes into mechanical keyboard waters for the first time, so who knows, if I love it, I may explore a custom built. For now, I will be watching the door for the postman. I will report back once I’ve had time to get used to Alice.
I bought my first switches by watching people’s videos of sound tests 
I love a good clicky keyboard, it’s so satisfying! It goes the other way too though, if people want silent keys they’ll be listening to videos to see how much noise is generated.
I’m on Gateron North Pole (2.0) switches now. I needed transparent switches for my build because I have RGB, but I also wondered if I wanted a smoother, slightly quieter typing experience from my usual clicky affair and thought I’d give it a go. These switches are linear (no mechanical click) and I’m possibly a convert to linear switches now. It’s a smooth, muffled sound and satisfying typing experience.
When you get into mechanical keyboards you discover you have very strong opinions about stuff no-one else cares about 