Logos/Libronix/Faithlife moving to subscription

My licensing fees are very reasonable. :slight_smile:

I agree about the iPad app. It is basically the iPhone app, stretched to a larger screen. They have a lot of room for improvement there. Hopefully the subscription moves them in that direction.

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Absolutely!! But, I’ll give you the priestly annual discount. :rofl:

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The iPad app is weaker than it should be, but since Logos 10 has been so much more capable than it used to be. The layout feature is great, the link sets work great (especially the “follow-only” option), the new parallel resources button has been wonderful. I’ve have experimented with seeing how much I can accomplish on the IPad app and the results have been good. But, it’s still lacking in some important things. The inability to prioritize resources, the inability to use your preferred Hebrew-Greek bibles the way you can on desktop, and lots of other workflow efficiency features are sorely lacking. The Word Study, Passage, and Exegetical guides should also be vastly improved on iPad. Collections would be wonderful to have.

I think one piece of low hanging fruit is that Logos should migrate the courses tool to iPad. I’d vastly prefer working through courses on my iPad than on my Mac.

Search on mobile is a bright spot, since you can use all (or maybe it’s just almost all) the terms and connectors and fields. I get a kick out of testing a search on desktop and getting the same results on iPad or my iPhone for that matter. Although, not being able to use quick collections (where you treat one of your tags as a collection) is disappointing. I use that a lot on desktop.

Never heard of this. Thank you!

+1 on Perlego.

I used it when I was studying and it was superb (and now has better software/website than when I used it).

I am tempted to go with Perlego again because the academic book selection is so good. I could never have afforded to buy them - many of the books available being staggeringly expensive.

Access is genuinely unlimited unlike, say, Everand. And it’s not just theology books - there’s a vast range of academic disciplines available so good for keeping up with other areas of relevance/interest.

Edit: I just did a search on their site for the last four academic books I purchased. They have them all.

Extra sermons? Shouldn’t the higher tier offer excusal from all sermons and admittance to the Cigar Lounge? Okay, I’m a heathen. I admit it.

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This is just brilliant! Love it 🫶🏼

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Some of this really made me chuckle!

For many years, I’ve used eSword as my primary Bible study app. It doesn’t have a subscription - I think it’s $10 for the Mac and $10 for the iPhone app. The website only lists the Windows edition, but the app is available in the Apple app store. It has the dictionaries, commentators and other books that I typically use when studying for sermons. I looked at Logos but wasn’t comfortable with the price.

I’ve been using Obsidian to write sermons using some of Mike Schmitz’s resources. I have the full Bible in Obsidian and use the links to pull scripture texts into my notes. It makes it easy to see what sermons I have preached from specific scriptures, etc. I don’t think I would get any value from Logo’s writing tools.

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How do you do that? I’d be interested in a plain text or markdown version I can use in several places.

PS Welcome to MPU!

I followed Mike’s instructions here. It is fairly granular in that it goes down to one note per scripture. A word of warning: it will significantly increase the size (read number of files) of your vault.

However, I really like being able to do something like:
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Like, over 30,000 files. :slight_smile:

It’s so interesting to read about this universe of Christian religious software. I’m a rabbi, and while at times I do avail myself of academic biblical study, as far as Jewish text and translations go, there is an amazing tool called Sefaria run by a nonprofit that has raised money both to digitize traditional texts and to buy rights to significant translations and make them freely available. They offer both a website and apps for iOS and Android. (I could pick some nits about the iOS app’s interface, but on balance I’m really grateful it exists…)

More info is available here: About Sefaria

(Interestingly, the project has pretty much tanked the market for competing products in this field - I have a CD-ROM with a small subset of these texts that I paid hundreds of dollars for when I was in seminary.)

For my Christian colleagues, there are resources that might be of use such as Cassuto’s Bible commentary, the Brown-Driver-Briggs lexicon, and the JPS and Everett Fox Bible translations.

Just wanted to give a pointer to this valuable resource which I think would be of some use outside of its primary audience.

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That is a lot of files!!

Thanks, I’ll check it out!

Thanks, much appreciated!

Sefaria is a great resource I was not aware. Thanks Michael. I do utilize JPS and BDB (prefer HALOT) but I am going to look at Cassuto. Do you know any of Cassuto’s background?

Pastor here.

I’ve already been paying a subscription to Logos that was called “Connect”. I was paying £80 which unlocked all app features so that I didn’t need to upgrade each time. I’ve now been told my Connect subscription is moving to “Logos Pro”. I’m happy paying what I currently pay. I hope that they don’t move features under a further pay-wall. This would really suck. My worry with Logos is that their packages in the past have been way beyond what I could afford here in the UK. If the subscription goes the same way, I may need to re-evaluate.

I also use Accordance, Olive Tree, and Life bible (was Tecarta). I tend to buy books wherever they are cheapest.

Too be honest, I tend to read the resources and search most. I don’t use many of the features that often.

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Just want to throw another Bible app in the mix.

Much more barebones than something like Logos, but think it walks a fine line between available resources and simplicity. But no subscription, so there’s that.

And I don’t think a collection of Bible apps to consider is complete without Neu Bible. It is just a collection of different translations, no commentary, but it is hands down the best designed Bible app—maybe even reading app—I’ve ever used. Also no subscription.

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Thanks for reminding us of this. I have it and find it the best available when I want to focus on just reading, not studying, biblical passages.

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New to me, but it is beautiful. I tend to use the free YouVersion for devotional/casual study/reading… but I’ll try to change the fonts to be similar at least!

STEP Bible is an incredible, free tool, offering one click access to Hebrew/Greek words from the ESV, easy comparison of versions, highlighting the use of words in the text, harmony of the gospels and more. All things that Logos offers, but somewhat quicker and simpler.

Blue Letter Bible has a huge range of study tools, from commentaries to interlinear.

Only if it’s one verse per file. For my purposes that’s unnecessary. I use one chapter per file, which is less than 2,000, along with Bible Linker plugin.

I’d be happy to help, at least in the one chapter
per file format, although you need to be careful of copyright. Only a few translations are free for complete download as opposed to extracting texts.

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