My understanding is that the package being discussed above is one verse per file. Chapters are 1189, which is a number that I inadvertently memorized working with audio MP3s and trying to rename them to be in a useful order.
Sefaria is fantastic!
Thanks for the offer. I downloaded the file to Ulysses and ended up with one sheet per verse. That’s not workable.
I have always wanted to use Logos, but I’ve never been able to justify the cost of building a real library. Perhaps I’d find it more useful if I spent (a lot) more money on it.
Instead, I have been relying on scholarly articles available through my seminary. The articles usually provide me more reading than I can finish in the time I have available for sermon prep.
Same boat here. Always wanted to invest more time to really extract its value, but never put enough time into justifying investing more money.
But I’m not in seminary or any scholarly position or anything.
Thanks for this post-- I missed that they were going to subscription. I’m not immediately opposed, though I do feel a bit of subscription fatigue. Apologies if someone answered my question already…
Background
I’ve been using Logos since at least 2009-- I can’t remember the package I bought when I first jumped in, but I’ve resisted upgrading feature sets because I basically just use it as an e-reader and use the clippings tool extensively. I use Accordance for most of my text study in Greek / Hebrew. BUT… I do like having everything with me since I travel internationally 5-6 times a year, so I’m always right on the edge of pulling the trigger with Logos to go “all in.”
Question
Logos is making a big push to upgrade to the features of Logos 10 right now at a discount, just before the subscriptions roll out-- should I upgrade so I have access to these features or will most of them be included in a subscription? I’ve seen them do similar sales in the past right before they release a new version. Since I’ve not upgraded features since version 7, I am a bit tempted…
Any thoughts?
Somewheres I thought I read that they will still provide the free “engine,” like they always have, and we get to keep our books and whatnot, but won’t be privy to the latest and greatest without a subscription…
This is my pricing… I think it may be connected with your current level.
Go to: https://www.logos.com/early-access/subscriptions.
I’m not sure I’m going to jump. The main use for me is the addition of AI, but going to ChatGPT is probably more flexible and less expensive, given the Logos AI sermon assistant tools don’t seem to make use of your library.
As there is no free tier, if someone doesn’t upgrade to the subscription will they be left with whatever package they are currently on? If that no longer runs on a new OS then you might lose thousands of pounds of resources.
I’m hoping there’ll at least be an engine upgrade so you can still access your resources.
You should go look at the Logos Forum on this. There are almost 1,500 posts as of today. Talks about a lot of this. There are early posts by Mark Barnes, the rest are just very passionate user comments and questions on these topics with a few answers:
That is my pricing, too. I tested it and saw some things that I liked. I thought I’d give it a try for the year. I’m less interested in the AI features—and by that I mean not at all interested. But there are some enhancements to the software, especially on mobile, that I liked.
I did the early access pass when it came out. I think the Logos Max is $129/year if you were early access. When I go to the link, it looks my renewal in 2025 will be the price listed of $350/year.
I am testing out everything while it’s cheap. In regards to the AI, I am not interested in the sermon assistant tools for a few reasons:
- Doesn’t make use of your library
- The possibility of the tool writing one’s sermon is scary
On the other note, there is an AI feature that is powerful and makes more sense that I am willing to invest in: Coral AI
I found the following below on Logos’s websites. The conclusion is that Logos’s rather steep subscriptions (in my opinion) are going to hit everyone. Just at different time junctures, but definitely after two years.
They’ve also said that they’ll keep whatever base package you have updated for OS upgrades.
This leads me to the conclusion that the best option may be making use of Logo’s sale to buy the best possible package upgrade and sticking with that. $250 is more than double what I’m currently paying and the likelihood is that it’ll get more expensive as it goes.
Move to subscription considerations from Logos’s websites:
- In addition to offering monthly and annual terms, you’ll also be able to pay for two years of an annual subscription upfront. This will be a great opportunity to lock in your subscription price for two years and automatically qualify for the Legacy Fallback License (if you own a Logos base package). For example, if you pay for two years upfront in October 2024, your subscription will not renew until October 2026, at which point your subscription will renew at the annual rate. Our annual terms give you the equivalent of 2 months free, and the two-year upfront option provides 5 months free.
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/225401.aspx
- Do I have to subscribe to keep access to Logos?
- No, you won’t be forced to subscribe to Logos. Unlike most software companies, we make our latest software available to everyone. **Even if the last feature set you bought was Logos 4 in 2009 (or even version 1 in 1992!), you’ll continue to receive free app updates, ensuring you can keep using Logos anytime you change computers or upgrade your operating system. You’ll continue to receive bug fixes for free, too.
https://www.logos.com/early-access/subscriptions
Obsidian would probably handle it better:
+1 for E-Sword. Have used it for many years, lots of free and paid resources. Thanks for sharing the Bible on Obsidian, will check that out!
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