macOS Sequoia adds weekly permission prompt for screenshot and screen recording apps

If this will go through… Please… no…

Once a week (with no reboot) and with every reboot of the Mac.

This is annoying if you are sitting in front of your Mac. But to make it worse: it is a huge issue when connecting remotely to Macs using tools like Jump Desktop, Teamviewer and what not.

P.S. I was driving in my car the other day and asked Siri for directions. First, I needed to give Siri permissions again on my iPhone to use location services after having used Siri on the exact same iPhone in the same car for more than 9 months now. Apple, you are on the wrong track for sure…

Via:

Fortunately, Apple already is getting feedback about this - and it is important to send feedback:

Another sign that the people in charge of security and privacy features at Apple are out of control and that nobody who stands up for user experience is being heard.

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Imagine each app requires a prompt. That would be like 20 prompts for me. This is really worse than Vista.

Reminds me of this:

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The absurdity! At least it seems to be a modal dialog that you can quickly dismiss by hitting a button and you do not have to fiddle with the sorry mess of Security preferences.

Yes… But every week, if you do not shutdown your Mac (which I am doing daily). And after every reboot. For every app that needs those permissions. This is crazy.

And if this app is an app to enable you remote access to your Mac, you will not be able to grant permissions remotely which means that you cannot do it at all if you are not sitting in front of your Mac. The “you are holding it wrong” approach does not work under these circumstances. Because the user cannot resolve this issue while using tools like Teamviewer or Jump Desktop. This could be getting to a point where the solution is to not use a Mac, but a PC running Linux or Windows for remote access scenarios.

Apple needs to accept that “permanently” does mean exactly that: permanently. There is no way around that. It makes me sad that they are not capable to accept that the buck needs to stop with the user, “no questions asked”.

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Apple likes having total control over its “children”, aka customers, that use iPhones and iPads. I don’t think they will stop locking down the Mac until it starts hurting sales.

Why wait for Sequoia?

Sonoma can be fun, too. :rofl:

:person_facepalming:

EDIT:

The result is a platform that’s teetering on the edge of becoming a user-experience joke akin to Windows Vista.

“Summer of Fun”. Indeed.

I truly hope that the media and the comments get through to Apple on this one. In my opinion they’ve lost the plot. This is plainly bad, and I won’t update this fall if this goes through.

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Sorry, one thing to add, but I bought another Studio Display yesterday for dual monitor work. When I plugged it in, there was a pop up notification that asked if I wanted to allow the accessory Studio Display to connect to the Mac.

Um… yes, obviously. That’s why I physically plugged it in! I chose to do that!

If that’s not security theatre, I don’t know what is.

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Hey, you never know when a mischievous coworker will lug a 5k monitor to your desk, sneak in a cable and show passers-by your menu bar. Gotta protect yourself.

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Where is the :joy: emoji response? So ridiculous.

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Instead of spending time and resources adding pointless “features” like this, maybe they could instead fix all the little annoyances in macOS that users have been trying to work around for years. Like menubar icon management, external disk mounting/demounting issues, rough edges in Finder…

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It should be opt-in only.

and thanks for the mastodon link. I had forgotten that place existed.

Man, you hit a bulleye on this matter! Gosh, I have so many annoyances with macOS and have been silently suffering and cursing under my breath for years. I think I probably lost a few days of my life to these negativity!

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Apple has removed the reboot requirement and will make this a monthly requirement.

That still means out of 12 apps I have that need screen recording, I’ll need to click 12 times each month. This is insane.

If you don’t need/want any Sequoia only features, then why upgrade? I waited a few weeks before upgrading to Sonoma but still had to go back to Ventura twice before all my problems were solved.

My M1 MBA is mainly a home server that I plan to keep on Sonoma as long as it is receiving security updates.

This reminds of the initial copy/paste between apps in iOS 16: Each time you did it, you had to give permission to allow paste. This feature was annoying and didn’t go over well; in 16.1, Apple fixed it so you could set app level permisisons.

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I heard on some podcast (sorry, I don’t remember which one) that Apple has introduced a new API for screen capture this year and that it’s only the older API (now deprecated) that will require monthly agreeing. So this is basically a ploy to get developers to update their code.

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9to5Mac had something like that in their article (different API available), it was removed later on:

Editor’s note: Updated to remove paragraph that said there was an API developers could adopt to avoid this pop-up. There is no API to avoid this pop-up.

I also do remember some podcast talk about this “new” API that allegedly makes this go away. As far as I remember it was debunked later on. Unfortunately I am not able to find the podcast any more where this was discussed. The new API that allegedly is less intrusive is ScreenCaptureKit. Developers that have migrated to ScreenCaptureKit are noticing the same prompts. There is a new property list key available since 14.4: Persistent Content Capture | Apple Developer Documentation. There is speculation that this key may entitle apps to be exempt from those prompts. It is intended for VNC apps. It is getting interesting: “Before your app can use this entitlement, request permission to use it by submitting the Persistent Content Capture Entitlement Request form.” Jump Desktop has applied for this key - https://support.jumpdesktop.com/hc/en-us/articles/29070118000781-Sequoia-Beta-Screen-Recording-Policies-and-Jump-Desktop-Connect. Fun times to be an Apple developer.

We will see.

EDIT: The podcast I failed to remember may have been Upgrade #524: We're Making a Trifle - Relay FM (I am not able to check its contents right now).

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Guess so! Certainly this entitlement is necessary for any VNC app. I did verify that Apple’s own VNC, Screen Sharing, works without the popup occurring.

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Because I want the features? I bought Mac Mini M2 Pro so I can enjoy years of updates.
If I stick to Sonoma, I’ll not only be losing Sequoia’s features but features for future systems :frowning:

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