I missed these posts, but it looks like the developer was participating quite a bit, not just driving by; that’s a good thing.
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It depends on the user’s trust level who flags a post as spam. If a “Regular” flags a post as spam, the post is hidden immediately. Then, a mod has to decide what to do with the flag (they are being notified). If no mod will act, the post will stay hidden. I am under the impression that this community seems to be on its own for quite some time now. And this is a problem in situations like this…
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But even then it’s only a single post?
- TL3 spam flags cast on TL0 user posts immediately hide the post
So someone really flagged all individual posts from this developer?
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Streisand effect kicking in - fighting urge to buy this app even though I’m pretty sure I don’t need it!
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Yes. One or several persons flagged all individual posts. Mods/admins can see who…
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There are occasional drive-by-developers who are essentially advertising their product.
This wasn’t one of them; he was engaging.
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I agree - although we don’t want this forum to descend into a spam hole, I don’t believe every post should be flagged like that. Some discretion is needed where someone is actively engaging and it’s clear their intention is not just to gain more sales. We should be a more welcoming community
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I can understand why it was flagged. The user joined the forum and posted their software. No prior engagement
Other users have been flagged for the same reason.
This is a difficult one to solve. Outlinersoftware forum allows this, but gets much less traffic than this forum.
People joining and promoting their software is certainly increasing. At what point will this make forum users lose interest? Once that happens it’ll be difficult to get users back.
Right, no prior engagement - but a ton of engagement in reply to the community. 9 replies above. If the logic is that we flag people who aren’t acting like part of the community, I’m not sure why we’d flag somebody who starts legitimately acting like part of the community.
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I am bothered that a member of the community took it on their self to eject other members’ posts without a basis in community policy. I am bothered that we don’t have active moderators to, well, moderate. I’m bothered that the posts of @MojoPad, with whom I (and others) were conversing via the forum were deleted unapologetically, mid-conversation. And, finally, I’m bothered that whatever member decided to play traffic cop won’t own up to it, publicly.
The solution is simple: if you don’t like what a member says, mute the thread or mute the member from your view.
You’re not the boss of us.
Katie
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That does seem odd. I’ve always assumed that if community members are engaging with a new poster that their posts are acceptable. Flagging mid stream does seem a bit rude. And as others have said, if I don’t like a topic, I don’t read it.
Who is responsible for dealing with flagged posts? Surely they can unflag them?
Edit
Just looked at the moderators tab and only @beardfm and @MacSparky are moderators; along with the defunct Rosemary Orchard. They are the only one’s who can sort this. Perhaps they can also add a few more moderaters while they’re at it?
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It’s not hard to solve at all.
Create a “Developers” section where posts from software developers are welcomed and encouraged.
Those who value engaging with developers can benefit from it.
Those who are not interested can choose not to read it.
All solved. Everyone is happy.
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Unless you can filter the whole sub section so the ‘latest’ feed isn’t clogged up with the posts, that won’t work either.
If it is a separate category then you can mute it - then it will not show up in Latest
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/69071e4b-4a9f-4ef4-9b03-bf04eba1a432
I don’t know if a separate category is best. Ideally, developers would just naturally mix in with the general conversation and become community members. A separate category would also give the impression we want drive-by announcements in that category, and would make it harder to ask them to make the announcements higher quality. It’d technically still be possible but would require firmer/more present moderation. And that in turn would have effects on the rest of the forum.
Community management is complicated!
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There may be some truth there
Maybe an active moderator can simply say “Developer participation is welcome with engagement/follow-up but not drive-by posts.”
The difference between the two may be hard to define but is a clear “you know it when you see it” thing
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But people that post then need to adhere to using that category.
We have an AI category, which I muted, but I still see many AI related posts in other categories (and I understand why).
The same might happen with these software posts.
We clear need more active moderators and/or additional moderators. I would volunteer to help with that if asked.
It’s pretty easy for a moderator to move a post to a different Category. Doing so does not disrupt those who are interested in reading it.
Would you now.
Well, it wasn’t me.
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