Sure, but the point remains that the Files app has seen big improvements in the past 3 versions. Maybe it will never get to the point that you need it to be but it will continue to improve so that year-by-year more will find it to be adequate to what they need. The same can be said of Safari, Mail, etc. The main point is that all of the default apps will continue to be improved and will continue to close gaps.
Perhaps so. But the idea is that if you leave the home or office, you’d take the base with you. Otherwise you would need to be within WiFi and/or Bluetooth range of the base. This would be a desk-focused device with a larger screen, expected to be mostly docked or used in a stand, elevated but near the base. The fact that it could be used as a tablet is more of a secondary bonus.
In the above scenario of the iPad Studio as a larger desk device, the iPad Pro would still be an available device in the line-up in a form factor closer to what we have today.
But the logical extension of that is basically that nobody should ever call anything “pro” ever again, because that’s true in pretty much every profession. Non-“pros” buy high-spec stuff because they like it, and “pro” people sometimes shop at WalMart.
I think the “Air” vs “Pro” distinction makes at least some sense - but not when there’s a “Pro” that’s priced against the “Air” section of the lineup.
It would be ridiculously simple to have the “Pro” line just pertain to any computer that contains a Pro, Max, or Ultra M-series chip. The product line is almost there.
Exactly. The specs don’t make it “pro.” What it’s used for does. It’s misleading as a synonym for high-spec hardware, and it only makes sense as a marketing tactic.
The initial excitement is over, the return window for the first to receive an AVP is closing, and users are learning what the Vision Pro can and cannot do.
I have no use for a Vision Pro but I am interested in following the technology, so I have started listening to calm AVP discussions like the latest Automators podcast.
Society-wise, the idea of “pro” or “professional strength” or “professional quality” is an established concept that - when used properly - typically differentiates the higher-spec part of a lineup from the lower-spec. Yes, it’s a marketing thing. But it’s a marketing tactic that typically has a basis in fact, and actually informs buying decisions when used properly.
My argument is that this is an established concept in peoples’ minds that Apple is leveraging improperly in the case of the one base model MacBook Pro. I find this disingenuous not because the term is meaningless, but precisely because the term has established meaning and the base-model MBP doesn’t fit the meaning.
We’ll just have to disagree on that. When a lawyer buys a MacBook Air for work, it’s a pro machine, and when someone buys a high-spec device to play games on, it’s not a pro machine, regardless of the labels the manufacturers put on them.
I’d guess that at least 80% of Apple Vision “Pros” have been bought primarily as expensive toys.
the MacBook lineup would make a lot more sense of the M3 MacBook Pro (the one with just the M3 Chip not the Ultra or the Pro) was rechristened “MacBook” so then we would have Air, MacBook, Pro to cover the price gambit. Calling the M3 a “Pro” it confuses the lineup of what’s “Pro”
It’s clear what Apple means by ‘Pro’ and it doesn’t need to relate to the individual use of the machine, only to it’s capability. MacBooks Pro have more power, better screens, better speakers, and more configuration options, and are targetted at creative professionals. Whether or not every purchaser is a creative professional is not at all a meaningful distinction. Most reasonably intelligent humans can intuit Apple’s meaning from context without issue.
This is just equivocation and is adding nothing of value to the discussion.
Sorry, there’s an implication that you’re not a pro if you don’t buy it, which wouldn’t have been there if they’d used Max or Plus or something, and that increases the likelihood that you’ll buy it even if you don’t need it.
It’s not just individual buyers. Part of the reason the low end MacBook Pros exist (starting with 8gb RAM!) is to sell into enterprise IT departments for desk jockeys to run MS Office, etc. because of a perception that MacBook Airs aren’t for real work.
Apple uses the “pro” label instead of a more accurate alternative because it’s more effective in upselling buyers and getting them to spend beyond their needs.
And there are several remote desktop apps available in the App Store which should them a good estimate of how many people would be interested in this feature. So is it in Apple’s best interest to Sherlock those existing apps and alienate more developers?
I’d say the biggest difference in the context of this discussion is that no one is claiming that the iPhone can replace a laptop running a desktop OS. I put up with the limitations of iOS on a phone even though they annoy me. I’d find them intolerable on a MacBook or anything that might replace it for the things I use it for.
The difference with the iPhone is there is an accepted cadence
The faster cadence is probably because they don’t sell anywhere near as many iPads as they do iPhones. Also, Apple releases a new processor for the iPhone every year, which they don’t do for the iPad.
The hardware is hardly different from last year
I dunno, I find the hardware improvements of the 15 Pro Max (more powerful camera, titanium, USB C, action button, etc.) meaningful compared to the 14 Pro Max, though I agree it’s not the kind of major jump that 7 to X was.
Somewhat my point… no-one should be claiming that the iPad can replace a laptop running a desktop OS. Because 14 years on, it mostly still can’t. Hence the kvetching.
Each to their own, but most of the pundits usually land on the “if you have last year’s model, there’s not much point” square.
My view may be coloured by the fact the cameras simply aren’t a drawcard for me. So really the only functional difference between a 14 Pro and 15 Pro is a new button. A cable is still a cable. The weight is nice, but I can’t ever imagine struggling with any model of phone by weight.
In fact, with the cameras out of the mix, I’ve still not found a compelling reason to upgrade from the 11 Pro. It will probably be when iOS drops it that I upgrade. There really isn’t a heck of a lot different between an iPhone 11 Pro and 15 Pro from a day-to-day life point of view. The cameras are certainly improved somewhat, but they still won’t be good enough for me, so .
Actually… I’d like to see blind tests between, say, an iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro and see if people can actually tell which phone the photos came from.
I put to you, though, that if you didn’t have a state-of-the-art general purpose computer, then you’d probably be a lot more annoyed. Neither of my adult sons have anything except an iPhone. They live mostly in the social apps, but boy do I hear words when they need to fill out a form or some such and then it’s “find a friend” to deal with it. Usually me.
.