My critique of lazy pundits echoing old narratives

Ahh, and there we have it. To bring it back around to the original post of this thread!

Perhaps it’s the framing of this that’s wrong - the perspective of the iPad discussion has always been from the perspective of .001% of the human population: tech pundits. Hence, the framing and perspective is far, far too narrow and not representative of the human population that uses a computing device.

Tech pundits and the other tiny subsets of humans that populate these forums and similar tech forums is still a very small percentage of the human population that use “computers” in 2024.

The "computer " of 1999 was commonly understood to be a desktop or laptop. Usually it ran Windows, less frequently Mac OS or Linux or whatever. But that computer ran a “desktop OS”.

Cool. But that all powerful desktop OS was stuck on a desk or in a heavy, clunky laptop that didn’t have a camera, had a small screen, etc. But the framing of “what is a computer” is foundational to that time period, those devices and the operating systems they were based on.

Jump forward 25 years. The pundit centered discussion of the iPad is still stuck in that perspective. As pointed out above, the iPhone is so small that the framing and expectations are different.

But the iPad is just large enough the expectations set it much closer to that of a laptop. From day one Steve Jobs posititioned it as a new category that sat between iPhone and Mac. But from day one he muddied the waters of expectation by selling it with a keyboard dock and demonstrating Pages as a productivity app that could be used.

Pundits and nerds don’t seem to be very good at nuance. It’s on or it’s off, it’s black or it’s white, it’s a success or a failure. I suspect that some of this has to do with the market and headlines. Lots of pundits, lots of podcasters, writers competing with hot takes, etc, there’s not a lot of room for nuance and middle ground. The discussion of hardware is usually positioned as an all or nothing proposition, a never ending competition and the must always be a winner. Hence the whole “Is the new device an old device killer?” or “Can I replace this device with this device?” tropes.

My point is that a slower, more thoughtful, nuanced approach to the discussion of computing technology would be far different from what we have. Instead of bouncing around from rumor to rumor about the next big thing and the latest hot take meme that will drive clicks, we might be having a for more interesting conversation that embraces the future we are living in.

I have a watch that can send a text, answer email, and track my heart rate. I have a phone that can take a night time photo of the Milky Way Galaxy or ID the song of a bird or stream one of millions of songs to a tiny pair of computing devices in my ears. I have an iPad that I can use to edit a video, layout an actual newspaper (remember those?), scan an old document and turn the image into a document of text or scan a paper form and turn it into a functional pdf form. I have a Mac to answer an email, create a presentation or code a new application.

The discussion is far more interesting if we reframe it as a discussion about an ecosystem of niches to be filled. The ways in which billions of humans now use apps and devices is far too complex and interesting to limit in the discussion the way that we have.

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That is almost inconceivable to me. But then I’ve been using general purpose computers since the time when personal computers running CP/M were being replaced by the Apple II and by PCs running MS-DOS. My first computer purchases were an original IBM PC with green-text monochrome monitor, and later, a Macintosh IIci with a black and white portrait monitor. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Do you truly think that pundits, or anyone on this forum, or even Steve Jobs’s early positioning of the iPad is what is holding it back?

Each of the devices in Apple’s current lineup, including the iPad, is a roaring success by any reasonable business standard.

You keep telling us that we should be doing something that, of our own free will, we choose not to do.

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The software one needs to do their job determines the hardware that can be used. After that it’s just a matter of choice.

I hear you. The phone I recently upgraded from is a XS Pro Max (even older than yours), which probably won’t get the next iOS upgrade. I specifically waited for the 15 because I was sick of dealing with Lightning.

The processor is noticeably faster, though the XS Pro Max still didn’t feel annoyingly slow. But the increased RAM (twice as much as my XS and 33% more than the 14 Pros) means an app like Obsidian that’s slow to cold start usually stays in RAM, so it opens instantly, though even cold starts are about twice as fast as they were on the XSPM.

The difference in the camera is just stunning, especially in low light, wide angle, and zoom shots.

Btw, the 15 Pro Max camera is a bigger improvement over the both 14 Pros than the one in the 15 Pro.

I agree that the titanium case doesn’t make a big difference day to day, but it’s nice that it’s lighter and stronger than stainless steel.

No, I don’t think anything at all is holding it back. I don’t think it’s held back at all.

Nor was it my intent anywhere in this thread (or any iPad related thread) to tell you or anyone what you should be doing or not doing. In fact, I’ve always been very careful to say that everyone should use what they deem to be the best tool for the job and workflow they have.

What I said in the quoted text and that particular post this morning was all about the foundational perspective of 13 years of iPad debate/discussion as it relates to traditinal desktop OS computers.

Perhaps this: the iPad can be the computer many people need and thus replace a desktop computer for many people. But… it cannot replace a desktop computer (without qualification).

A desktop computer can do way more stuff way more easily, and it’s not just the tech pundit’s domain in which that is true.

I am a hobbyist photographer. My wife is a hobbyist/professional needleworker. My brother is a professional graphic designer. My Mum (used to be) a professional genealogical researcher. All of those things are difficult and mostly downright annoying to do on an iPad. And that’s just in my close family.

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This fascinates me…can I ask what she does on the computer? Is it making patterns?

No I think it’s only the pundits and certain technical users who think it’s being held back at all.

The problem is wanting it to be a replacement for another tool.

Nobody’s here arguing that hammers should be spanner’s but they’ll eagerly rue the fact that an iPad isn’t a MacBook.

The missing part of this is why should it? What about desktop computers needs replacing?

It’s a weird assumption that an iPad should ever be able to replace a MacBook or excel at the things a MacBook excels at.

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I love the iPad but I still struggle with it. It can do a lot, but any given task is always better on my Mac.

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Today I had to review a 50 page pdf and sign a number of pages in this document. Perfect job for an iPad with Apple Pencil. Definitely better than doing it on a Mac.

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Yes. Using software that only works on versions of Windows earlier than 10 which means I bought her a brand new Intel iMac last year… the last model ever produced, so she can run the software in VirtualBox.

There are Mac-native options, but she got used to the best of the best over 20 years ago and now can’t settle for anything less. I have never seen anything, at all, for the iPad.

One of the things desktop/laptop computers do well is support niches while also allowing “the basics”. One iMac can do bookkeeping, social media, online store maintenance, high end photography workflows, textile design, and many more, and, as necessary, side by side.

You don’t need to convince me of that argument. But the one downside of a desktop computer was portability. Ubiquitous laptops solved that, and now we hear about loungability — can you do it on the couch? I say a laptop is still cumbersome anywhere but on a desk. An iPad is far more practical on the couch. But… only because of what it gives away — the best input devices for speed and accuracy.

And my personal view on “getting work done on the couch” is… why are you working from a couch?

To summarise my viewpoint, I agree with Steve Jobs’s original statement. The iPad is a new device that sits between iPhone and Mac, and does some things better than either of those.

Agreed. But I can’t remember the last time I needed to edit a pdf.

This demonstrates that the work need dictates the needed device. The arguments about which device is “better,” the iPad or the Mac, are misplaced. They are tools. Select the tool that best meets the task and context at hand. In my case, I frequently alternate between the iPad and the MBP for my work but seldom use the iPhone for work. Ninety percent of my work is reading, writing, speaking/presentations, project development and management, communicating (email), and meetings. My work involves engagement around policy development, strategic planning, strategic financial plans, institutional advancement and donor relations, public relations and marketing, personnel, legal compliance, long-range strategic curriculum and new program development, marketing, and more. The other 10 percent deals with spreadsheets, file management, etc. Consequently, I can work on either the iPad or the MBP. I select the device that best fits the task at hand. As my military dad used to say, “If the tool is not right, the mechanic is not bright.” :slightly_smiling_face:

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While true, I think it somewhat mischaracterizes the arguments being made here.

On one side there are folks, arguing correctly, that the iPad is a useful device as it is.

And on the other side there are folks, again arguing correctly, that the iPad could be much more.

And the two sided continue to talk past each other. Both can be, and in my opinion are, right.

And creating the straw man 'the Mac Pundits" and then grouping reasoned commentary with click bait sites as those ‘straw men’ does nothing to help, and is quite frankly a waste of everyone’s time.

I agree that the iPad is useful as it, and could be much better.

My wife would probably say the same about me! :rofl:

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I think that would be true of most wives … :slight_smile:

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I have an M1 MacBook Air, M2 iPad Pro, and an iPad Mini. I use all three. For most tasks I prefer doing them on my MacBook Air. I consume on my iPad mini.

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Same here. My Mac is my preferred place to do most things that are important to me.

I am hoping Apple releases an Apple silicon based version of the 12 inch MacBook so that can be my on the go Mac replacing my aging 2018 12.9 iPad Pro. Sadly, I have heard no such rumors :frowning:

Edit: also, Mac needs to have cellular option.

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It is conspicuous by its absence, isn’t it? Though I wonder about the heat from an M chip versus that gutless Intel thing that the 12" had.