You can’t flip the device 180 can you, so the wide casing edge is on the right? In which case, they’ve not made the use equal for left handed and right handed users. Left handed users don’t have an edge to hold the device with their right hand, and they have to write over / rest their hand on a margin that isn’t present for right handed users.
It also means for left handed users, the stylus is never secure on the side you need it - it’s always on the right and you have to cross over the device to reach it. Even if you could flip the device 180, I understand that the magnet to secure the stylus is positioned on the top right without a twin on the bottom right, which means if they did a software update to allow the device to be flipped, left handed users would have their pencils positioned upside down when secure because there’s only one place you can attach the stylus.
I’m not saying left-handed users can’t use the Remarkable 2 (or other devices - we have after all collectively had decades of putting up with this issue), I’m saying they haven’t provided feature parity, and since others on the market have put thought into this I’d rather shop with them. In the same way that I don’t use a mouse designed for a right handed user.
Thanks for reMarkable discount code. Delivery’s fast. First-Class quality. Saved more by using me Scribe pen, eraser + side button work on reMarkable. Wrote all day, transferred tonnes of books + PDF on wireless network + plenty of battery left. I had Boox - tried to do too much without being great at any, and Supernote - nothing wrong however felt like writing on plastic sheet. Scribe and reMarkable each has 1 unique selling point - come with bare minimum features but done remarkably well - Scribe is best for reading digital books and reMarkable best for writing + annotating. Can’t go wrong with reMarkable discounted $ + 100 day satisfaction guarantee.
Reckon these aren’t for every one. Acquire correct tablet for your unique need. They’ll save your eyes + boost productivity, relishing me Scribe and reMarkable.
Half pen latency vs the v2. You can buy a pen with an eraser end
similar battery life as v2, slightly heavier
starts about $600 instead of $400
Looks like a solid update, though, a bit against the mini trend (Boox Palma etc.) and color is going to be a step back for the 90% monochrome use case if they haven’t advanced the state of e-ink color contrast.
I just (re) purchased a RM2 a week or so ago. Saw this new device and was initially gutted but on reflection, I’m preferring the mono screen. While it is now “old tech” it serves its intended purpose very well. Like paper books haven’t evolved, I’d put the RM2 in the same bucket.
All that said, I gave away my Kindle and now regret that … and the Kindle is currently on special!
Too much technology, not enough sense!
@MacSparky how do you find the stylus on the Scribe. Has it always been tungsten?
Still using my reMarkable 2 everyday. Watched launch event and very tempted to get Paper Pro, will wait a bit to read feedbacks from new adopters and whether rm-hacks will work on new device.
Started a new job at the end of August and went and purchased another Remarkable 2. Sold the Kindle Scribe I’d bought from someone from my old job as I was leaving, as it’s still miles behind the RM2 in terms of notes. For example, there’s no rotate lock to stop it rotating screen wise, which it seemed to do ALL THE TIME. I also missed the extend page feature, which I used extensively on the RM2 - one meeting, one page, regardless of how long it was!
Colour? Might be nice, but I don’t want to pay that price for it (even my RM2 was purchased second hand). RM2 supports the colour pens if you wanted it, just not on the main display.
I caved and bought the Paper Pro so fast yesterday. I’ve been trying my hardest to write on the iPad Pro, but it’s never very satisfying. I have a reMarkable 2 now and the writing and PDF annotation are the best. I always take it into meetings over my iPad Pro despite the lack of connectivity.
I’m very excited to get the Paper Pro as a focused note taker and PDF reader.
Heavy as a brick. Shockingly heavy, compared to the reMarkable 2. No way would it be comfortable holding the device in my hands and writing for long.
Backlight is dim light. Probably won’t be comfortable to use for a normal writing session in a darkened room.
Colors are washed out – typical for reMarkable, the cheery, colorful images they show in their advertising are not what you get in real life.
Using any pen other than black causes the devices to blink and refresh – I can see this will an ongoing issue. Imagine writing on a sheet of paper where the writing vanishes for a blink then comes back – for everything you write.
I can confirm the findings of the The YouTube reviewers who also pointed out these issues.
I bought this because I was curious, and reMarkable has a 100-day money back return guarantee. Make sure you save the packaging. Odds are, you’ll need it. But I’ll give it 30 days to see if it grows on me.
Agree. Watched few videos and reviews plus not a fan of active pen. Another potential negative is tapping sound when pen touches rMPP some users are complaining about.
Have you done any work with PDFs yet? This is my biggest use case for color and backlight.
You’re confirming all of my concerns that have grown from other reviews and impressions. The dimmer, grey appearance is my biggest worry that would lead to a return. The photos next to the rM2 offer a striking visual contrast discrepancy, and 9/10 I prefer the rM2.
Mine arrives in two days and I’m very grateful for that generous return policy now.
Working with PDFs is marginally better on the rPP vs the rM2, because the colorized highlighting is better than the grey tones on the rM2. The backlight makes no difference. Because the device refreshes whenever a colored pen or highlighter is used, highlighting PDFs feels like 1980 all over again.
A backlit Paper Pro, with the backlight at 100%, is as bright in daylight conditions as a reMarkable 2.
I had the RMPP in the cart (it’s probably still there) ready to hit the buy button with the safety of the 100 Day return. But to be honest, for me, adding colour is a backward step. As silly as it might sound, when I want to focus, I don’t need the added decisions of which colour to choose.
I’m sure there are very legitimate use cases but I like the black/grey/white simplicity. My bank balance is very happy with this release.
I just got the Paper Pro yesterday and you’re spot on. I’m finding with the curtains closed I need the front light at 4/5 or 5/5. The rM2 needed just a bit of light to be usable, much less than the Paper Pro.
I’m a little disappointed in the yellow tint around the edges from the front light. Not really an issue at 3/5 or less, but definitely noticeable at 5/5 brightness.
The marker feel is far closer to a pen now, where the rM2 felt like a pencil on paper. I’m hesitant to say fountain pen as I prefer a finer nib with a little more drag, but a possibly a medium nib fountain pen. It’s definitely got more texture than an iPad with Pencil, but the gap between this and the nano-texture iPad is less still. I don’t think writing feel will be the deciding factor in keeping the Paper Pro, it’s more likely to be it’s overall package in a focused and streamlined device.
Where the rM2 hit 10/10 on writing feel, focus, and readability. The Paper Pro trades some of that perfection for improvement in low light and adding color and lands at an 8/10 across the board. I have yet to decide if that broader feature set is worth the trade.
I bought a Boox Go 10.3 this summer and I’m happy with it. It doesn’t have a backlight though (a conscious choice for me) so would have the same issue others have flagged with the rm2 in this chat. I’m fine with that at the moment, but as the evenings draw in I’ll have to see if it becomes an issue.
I feel like it’s probably a silly thing to have a strong opinion about, but I’m opposed to colour on e-ink screens. I don’t think that’s what they were designed for and it annoys me how many e-ink readers are integrating it. It adds a level of complexity I don’t want in a device intended for focused work (and to rest my eyes).
@KVZ flagged that the rPP is very heavy, which is not good in a tablet. I think the Boox Go is too thin - it’s not so much a weight issue as it is the thickness. It’s so thin it’s hard to pick up from a hard surface, and I worry it’s going to damaged easily. iPads have a reassuring heft to them - I’m fine with their weight, but they’re just enough thickness that they feel sturdy.
