This came out of left field - new iPad mini

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9-5 Mac said it has iOS 18 on it, I’m sure it’s a typo.

But it supports the Apple Pencil Pro.

Speaking as someone who loves his mini 6… It’s quite a disappointing and lazy upgrade (down to even the same wallpapers). Tim Cook is apparently clearing the warehouse full of binned A17 Pros with a faulty GPU core that could not have been used in the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max.

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Don’t think it is, it’ll be out before 18.1

I think he meant it will use iPadOS, not iOS.

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I’d go back to a mini if it had at least a TB of storage. I like having my photos downloaded on all my devices. If my phone can do it so should every iPad.

ā€˜mini’ stands for the amount of work and effort that they’ve put into this update. :frowning:

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Yea, it seems that Apple this year…didn’t put in much effort in anything. Everything feels very ā€˜sub-par’ but still with the premium price. I have the Mini 6 and was hoping for a Mini 7…I have been slowly reducing what I need to do with my Mini to keep it moving a bit. It’s sluggish along with my iPad Pro Gen 3 (A12X chip)

Considering

  1. Do I still want to give Apple my money?
  2. Perhaps upgrade the iPad Pro to the new M4, and maybe forget about the Mini and get an 11?

Ugh…

Use Case

  • iPad Pro - my driver when I am outside my house, not near my Mac Mini, or if I am home but need to be with my kids and doing homeschool with them (the office can be isolating). Used for writing, researching and entertainment when traveling.
  • iPad Mini - used daily/weekly as my presenter notes, reading, entertainment
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If you can, why not get a large iPad Pro for 14 days then return it to Apple and swap it for a smaller iPad Pro.

The smaller iPad Pro will feel tiny, and powerful, and you will feel like it’s so small that you’d never cope with a mini.

Serious suggestion. I’ve got both sizes and I can’t believe how tiny the 11 inch is.

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I had a mini and a 12.9 pro. The 12.9 was so unwieldy and the 8 just too small to get anything done. I gave the 8 to my son and traded in the 12.9 for am 11 Pro and you’re right- it’s the Goldilocks iPad for me. Perfect size for most things. I say ā€œmostā€ because the keyboard is difficult for me to type on. Other than that— love it!

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True, but it was enough to allow the mini to run Apple Intelligence. Who would buy an apple device without that?

I still don’t get the hype behind Apple Intelligence. It’s using ChatGPT, right? If one already has a paid account to that, what would be the additional benefit?

ChatGPT isn’t Apple Intelligence

Apple Intelligence is using data about you (I.e. data available on your phone) not data about the wider world.

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Understandable that it’s not, but it is integrated together. (That’s what Apple is saying though)

I am trying to see what features would be useful. I prefer my own writing (even with its mistakes). Did a playful group project, gave them samples, most of the attendees could distinguish my writing from AI. According to the attendees, when they read over both pieces, ā€œone of them didn’t sound like meā€.

….which means I must be a really bad writer with lots of mistakes hahahah

But all in all, from the Apple Website, I think I need to play more with Apple Intelligence to see its benefit in my workflow life. Recording phone calls / transcribing seems to be a way to save time on in-person meetings.

That’s a pretty good question both for Apple and us – their customers here in the EU, as Apple Intelligence is not a factor for the 16 series of iPhones or the new iPad mini.

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Since Wall Street is betting big that AI is the future, Apple had to come up with an AI plan. And Apple’s brand of AI is promising to be on-device and draws on my ā€œpersonal context without allowing anyone else to access your personal data — not even Appleā€
ChatGPT, Gemini, and CoPilot, etc. doesn’t promise that.

I don’t have a lot of personal data on my iPhone. I only have one copy of the emails I have sent or received. There are others sitting on servers all around the world. All my important information resides on my bank’s servers, and those belonging to my insurance company, and my doctor, etc.

I’m going to have to wait like everyone else to find out what advantage Apple Intelligence has.

It’s not a factor for me either. AFAIK, my old iPhone can access every existing AI service available to individuals. So I have no need to upgrade.

But how would it look to investors if Apple released a new iPad that was already obsolete?

Anybody caught sight of a keyboard for this machine yet?

So they stuffed in the oldest processor and minimum RAM that support AI, threw in a few incremental and cosmetic updates, and called it a day.

It’s clear the Mini is a bit player in the iPad lineup. Could be due to lower sales for the small model, and maybe some key players in Apple who still think Steve Jobs was right when he said 8 inches was too small for a tablet.

You may be correct.

Report: iPad Pro Popularity Cutting Into iPad Air and iPad Mini Sales

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