I’m selective. I receive the weekly highlights and then add the ones I want to keep in Obsidian.
So, are you saying that you allow/wait for the algorithm to select the highlights? Or are you receiving a full weekly that you are selecting from?
This is an interesting workflow. Zotero can store both the bibliographic material as well as notes. How are you integrating this information into obsidian?
I’ve received a weekly selection of highlights based on the algorithm (which can be customized in settings in Readwise). Having said that, I month ago I cancelled my subscription. I was not getting enough value for the cost. Instead, I use Bookcision to download my highlights into Obsidian.
Selective makes sense. I was asking the technical question of how you are flowing things among the tools. I’m using the MDNotes plugin to create notes in Obsidian. I’ll take a look at Bookcision. Thanks.
Interesting, I’m not familiar with Bookcision, but have been running (& like) Readwise, and recently the Reader beta.
Thanks for pointing me towards an alternative.
-Ron
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Still using Zotero? I’ve been looking for a store to keep web articles in a searchable format and I think Zotero might be it.
Can yours clarify what you do in Zotero a bit more?
- When you say Bibliographical info, do you mean information relating to the book such as author, date of publication etc?
- How do the citations you mentioned differ from the highlights that get imported into Readwise?
- How does Zotero link to Obsidian?
- What do you mean by ‘references’ in the last line of the quote above?
Thanks very much for this
I’m afraid I’m not going to be helpful. I switched to Endnote and now do all of my writing in one of three apps, Pages, Scrivener, or a markdown editor. I also cancelled Readwise. I also stopped using Obsidian in favor of DEVONthink. I switched to Endnote because it works better for me in Pages and Word. Again, I apologize I can’t be more helpful.
Ah ok. Thanks the update.
Just so I’m clear, how does Zotero differ from DEVONThink or Readwise Reader?
Yes, they are three different type of apps as I would use them. Zotero is a citation manager (again, as I use it). Unlike others, I do not store research files in my citation manager. I store my research in DEVONthink.
DEVONthink is a database program for storing, converting, annotating and much more, the files you import or index. I only used Readwise for periodically reading my highlights and notes, consequently, I cannot speak to its full capabilities.
Ok, and to ask the silly question, what’s a citation manager?
For me, that’s about managing quotes and highlights in your articles and books which is where Readwise comes in isn’t it?
Some will use them differently, but generally, they are used to enter information about books and articles, so one can automatically create citations and a list of references in a paper or article. For example, here are a temporary citation and a formatted citation for Plato’s Republic from my Endnote library:
{Plato, 2021}
Plato. 2021. The Republic. Classic Books by Kathartika.
Word or Pages will “collect” the temporary citations and create a list of references or bibliography from them, saving hours. The list of references below was automatically generated from the temporary citations in one of my research papers.
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[Morgan Freeman voice]
Zotero is not it
[/Morgan Freeman voice]
I think it’s going to be DevonThink. I’ve tried using DT for this purpose several times before; maybe it’ll stick this time.
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You could also use a read later service that syncs the full content of your articles to Obsidian. Most will only sync highlights, but Omnivore and Wallabag will both send the full article. I sync them in a separate folder so they don’t mess up my main vault.
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You might also want to check out Readwise Reader which I’m using at the moment.
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I already use Reader and I may end up sticking with it as my archive—search seems to be more powerful than I thought it was when I started looking at options—again— a day or two ago.
I’m using Zotero but for scientific papers not for web articles. Zotero is more for bibliographic info not for content searching. At least in how I use it.
However, I do use Readwise and I can search for articles within it but search is slow. OTOH I have about 2000 articles in there so that could be part of it.
For me search is almost never the right way to find stuff.
Instead I spend time making sure I have good links between Zotero-Obsidian and Obsidian-Readwise with Obsidian being the place I collect and organize the data. I also file things in Obsidian in a logical tree structure and it mirrors my file structure on my macs. So I can nearly always get to the info I need by just going tothe right place or looking at one of my TOC/MOC notes in Obsidian and doing a quick search within that note using Find to get to the one I need.
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This is what I started using Omnivore to do a few weeks ago, and so far it’s working well. I’ve indexed my Obsidian vault in my Devonthink research database and use DT when I need to undertake a major search.
Note: I’m a digital packrat in recovery. I’ve sworn off everything buckets. If I put something in Omnivore it’s for the sole purpose of getting it into my research repository. If I put something in Readwise Reader, it’s for the sole purpose of reading it with intention, and more often than not, highlighting and taking notes. (I’d use Omnivore for this instead of Reader if it supported ePubs. Right now I’ve opted for Reader because my reading is pretty evenly split between PDFs and ePubs.)
GoodLinks—which I find to be a very good, budget-friendly read-it-later app—has become the bucket where I send my “Someday Maybe” reading. About once every six months or so, I declare read-it-later bankruptcy, delete whatever I’ve dumped there, and start afresh.
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This looks like a good system.
I long ago reconciled to the fact that my read-it-later list is a MAYBE read-it-later list. I’m fine with that. I keep a separate, shorter list for DEFINITELY read-it-later.
But I want to do a better job of managing RiL, archiving, etc.
As I am fond of saying in these discussions: The thing about read-it-later apps is that they’re filled with articles you decided not to read.