What are your biggest barrier(s) to going iPad only or primary


Again, Cook’s quote does not specifically refer to going iPad only, either in September 2015, when Cook said that, or today.



Alternative means just that: alternative, not replacement. I think Rene Ritchie of iMore gets it:

_As a laptop replacement, I don’t really wonder about the iPad Pro that way, any more than I wonder about the MacBook Air replacing the iMac Pro. Both the iPad Pro and MacBook Air are ultra-portables, and both the MacBook Air and iMac Pro are traditional computers, but to me they remain different, if overlapping tools in the belt… _
Is the MacBook Pro an iMac Pro replacement? For more people than the MacBook Air, I bet, but certainly not everyone. Nor is it meant to be. It’s meant to be an alternative for those willing to trade some power for portability, or an addition for people who need maximum power at the desk but also as much power as possible on the go.
Is the 12-inch MacBook an iPad Pro replacement? Probably, for people who want something ultra-light that can run macOS down to it’s UNIX terminal. For those who want an incredibly powerful tablet for illustration, drafting, modeling, and more? Not so much.


This is iPad. It’s not a laptop replacement, whatever that means, but it’s a laptop alternative that an incredibly diverse array of people will find more mobile, more flexible, and more accessible than any laptop.

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I think you are missing the point of this thread. There is no doubt whatsoever that the iPad is already a successful “alternative” as you have defined it. Using your definition, the point of this thread is what would it take for iPad to become a more suitable alternative for a wider swath of people.

We can debate until we are blue in the face about whether Apple sees iPad as a replacement or an alternative, but it is irrelevant in large measure. What will cause (more) end-users to buy it and want to use it? To motivate more mainstream users to purchase an iPad it probably needs to be able to replace more of the functions of one’s traditional computer.



Not at all; I gave my initial response in the thread more than a week ago. But that does not preclude me from disagreeing with someone’s more recent post.



That’s a fair point :slight_smile:



The iPad Pro totally is a laptop replacement. I replaced my laptop with it. Well, I replaced it with Mac Mini and iPad Pro :slight_smile: I need more specialised tools since my workload keeps increasing and the laptop just wasn’t enough anymore.

I think that a lot of people are trying to make the iPad a do it all and I see it as a fairly specialized tool, whereas the laptop is the do it all :slight_smile: And I am talking about the iPad Pro. Normal iPads are in a slightly different class.



That’s great for you. Obviously not for everyone, or there wouldn’t be so many people discussing barriers to using it as a replacement. :peace_symbol:



And now please read the rest of my post :slight_smile:



Marty, I read your entire post. Even the words I agreed with. :wink: You replaced your laptop in favor of a ‘specialized tool’ … which sort of proves the point others have made about there being barriers to going iPad only (the subject of the thread!)



It’s not a magical incantation that has to be repeated exactly to have an effect. While you may not be satisfied unless Tim says it in exactly the form you want to hear, I think there’s a telling contrast between how he described the iPad in 2015 and the way Steve described it as a third device that fits between your phone and your computer back in 2010. The way Apple has marketed the iPad Pro and, more importantly, the way they’ve developed the hardware and software since then (while not moving as quickly as some would like) make it pretty clear that they want to make going iPad only an option for as broad a swath of professional users as possible.

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A ‘broad swath of professional users’ option? That’s still a fairly nebulous depiction of an amorphous, and comparatively small, market. I’ll grant that it’s a fine option for a small minority of users but don’t see Apple in a rush to push iPad-only for most, even in its ads, which highlight unique abilities (sometimes stretching realistic credulity with somewhat unlikely aspirational marketing cases). It’s certainly got true advantages in some areas, but significant enough deficiencies in enough others that Apple seems more interested in building up iOS for now rather than try to really sell iPad-only. Even iOS evangelist Federico Viticci, owner of two iPad Pros, uses at least one Mac as well. And there’s a good reason for that.



My point was that the subject of the thread is kinda pointless :slight_smile: There are barriers because Apple developed the iPad in such a way. And I think those barries will stay. The iPad has a lot of power, because Apple wants to push the functionality of iOS and not because they plan to run Mac OS on it.

Maybe Surface Pro is the right way to do it. But I am just to deep in Apple ecosystem to see it clearly.

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I vote that your reply wins, “Best reply that was kind, didn’t assume motives, and assumed the best in a potentially volatile thread”
Thank you, and well done!



I feel this pretty much says it all. And I feel this way, despite being a devoted Mac user for quite some time (and someone who still owns and loves - currently - two Macs).

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Regardless of where we all come out on this, if any of the rumors reported today in MacRumors and elsewhere turn out to be accurate, there will be a lot of happy iPad users and maybe the scope of what one can do (efficiently) on an iPad will expand while the frustration-gap contracts. Here be the rumors:

  • a new Home screen;

  • an option to tab through multiple pages of a single app as you can do in a web browser;

  • improvements to file management; and

  • a multitasking feature for displaying two windows of the same app side by side.



I think all these are reasonable and overdue.

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Is there a way to use a mechanical keyboard with an iPad? Just curious!



In the latest iPad Pro commercials it seems to be touted as a tool for creatives…I’d love to see Adobe create feature filled apps for iOS or iPad Pro to help sync with the desktop versions or at least a lighter version.



With a USB-A adapter you can plug any keyboard into the iPad and it will work. The one caveat is you probably want a keyboard with the proper arrangement for a Mac, so that the Command, Option, and Control keys are in the proper places (unlike on macOS, there’s no way to remap these keys on iOS).



When I go to save a PDF capture from a webpage and I’m unable to rename the file it really makes me go back to my Mac pretty quickly.

I have worked in 4 operating system and this is they only one that will not let you rename a file when you go to save it.

Does anyone know why Apple did not provide this most basic capability in iOS

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