10.16 design criticisms and marketing name isn’t Apple’s best (in my opinion)

No, you said that. If not you personally, then others have.

I look forward to macOS Zzyzx. (Unless it opens Apple to ridicule, of course.)

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I think you should take a look at that answer again tomorrow morning and realise how it comes across.

It’s been said to you repeatedly why this way of approaching the subject – by letting your opinion run hot – was probably not the best way to get a constructive exchange. But by all means – and please believe that I say this without any malice – do as you please.

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I was expecting maybe 50:50 for:against Apple’s choices. Maybe 60:40 or as much as 80:20 either way on any one issue.

Instead this feels like X:1.

Apple can do no wrong apparently.

You made reasonable, sensible and thoughtful points. For me they raised an interesting discussion connected to my own profession really. It was useful. As it happens I don’t really agree with what you said but I find that secondary to the interest it had for me. I hadn’t thought, for example, of the ‘BS’ potentia in the namel. I don’t think it is a problem for Apple but I hadn’t thought of it. My own initials are “TP” I was known by many in the UK as TP… my wife still laughs.
It is extremely interesting and complicated as to how compounded words and names are understood psychologically. Why for example is the plural of “Dog house” for nearly every fluent speaker, automatically done as ‘Dog houses’ rather than say “Dogs Houses”. There are numerous cases. I don’t hear the ‘big’ in ‘Big Sur’ as an adjective I don’t think.

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Yeah, that must be it. No one criticizes Apple about anything on this forum, you’re the only maverick who’s ever done it, and it doesn’t mean that your thread’s original title “10.16 is just ugly and has terrible marketing name” or subsequent unsupported opinions-as-facts are in any way responsible for people disagreeing with you. You’re right, everyone else is Apple-cultist sheeple. Yup, that must be it.

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such as

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I’m sorry. Forgive my tone…

I expected more of a balanced discussion. That’s all. Opinions on both sides.

Ford naming the Prefect after a Douglas Adams character seems a bit odd to me too.

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The car came out in the '30s. It’s another Adams joke. (Which maybe you already knew?)

‘Balanced’ support doesn’t usually happen when one side is wrong. Something to think about.

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Yup, that was an Adams joke joke :slight_smile:

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Just for my own interest, how people interpret sounds is an empirical matter sometimes, do you hear “Big Sur” as you would hear say “Big Dog”? I assume you didn’t know the place name before?

There are interesting examples of concatenation. The long Welsh place name mentioned in a comment here being one. The most interesting to my mind is 'Little Big Horn". Which I think might be a kind of double construction. In other words “Big Horn” was qualified as if it was one term, to name a neighboring land feature. Do you see what I mean? You could imagine it happening with say “Big House” (in its meaning as ‘prison’) Another prison being built by one knows as The Big House, could become the “small Big House”. “Big Dog” has a very different connotation from “Big Cat” too. In the latter case you would be looking often for a Lion or something… Which brings us back, I guess, to Snow Leopard! Sorry for the digression into linguistics guys: hope it was ok?

Ahh, so YOU are right. Of course. How could I forget.

Bowline is right and I am wrong. Silly me. How could I forget.

You yourself noted that no one in this thread is agreeing with you; it’s becoming sad to watch you contort that into now comparing your imperious unsupported statements to the pushback you received… to just one person.

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i.e. personal opinion. I didn’t think it would result in personal abuse.

Can’t help there, but I have strong memories of fusty grammarians trying to slap Apple with a ruler for the phraseology in ‘Think different’. Apple was using a long-established linguistic form used for hundreds of years (I’m going good, the sports team played excellent) known as a flat adverb - but that didn’t stop pedants from bemoaning the allegedly poor grammar.

Some people just don’t think big (sir).

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I think it’s similar to Big Dog Motorcycles (and a host of other things), where the “Big Dog” is a thing unto itself. Being the big dog is not really about being a dog that is large.

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Thanks for this! My friend has been troubled by “Do not go gentle into that good night” so now I can maybe help resolve that.

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Or Thoreau’s, “I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life.”

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