Best service, complete privacy:
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I really want to use protonmail. But, their mobile app is painful to look at. And I feel like most people have gmail so your emails get decrypted in to google’s servers anyways
So I set up a new account (not using my domain) on fastmail. I’ve tried to set it up on my Mac using Airmail and Apple Mail. No luck. It won’t connect to the server properly. I’ve tried it multiple times re-entering all my info.
I will give it another try tomorrow but this is completely aggravating. The purpose to run a trial is to make sure I’m comfortable with it and I can’t even get it to access the account in two different email programs. I have no interest in using a web interface as I want to get my emails using the same client as my other email addresses.
You need to setup a one time password for clients!
I did do that. But for kicks, I tried both the one-time password and my regular password when things weren’t working.
Was it a trial? (not paid). If so I think you need to verify a phone number or pay for it to work. I had that issue the first I set it up. Otherwise 
Yes, when I was using the Fastmail app on my phone the first time, it asked for a phone number so I put that in. I was able to send reply to an email I had sent myself within the Fastmail app.
When I came back to my Mac and looked at the settings in the web interface, my number was there. So all that is working.
Perhaps this has already been tried but here is the support page for setting up clients.
Also, I’d recommend contacting Fastmail support for assistance. They should be able to figure something out we are missing.
Setup during my trial went smoothly before I upgraded to a paid plan and migrated my domain but that was a while ago and the processes may have changed since then.
I started with Gmail in the beginning and still use it. It’s reliable, has a great spam filter, and rules I can customize.
And since there’s a copy of everything I’ve ever sent or received on the other guy’s server, IMO, every major email provider is pretty much the same 
Thanks. I looked at that page. The one thing that really turned me off was this statement at the bottom: “Unfortunately, we are unable to offer technical assistance with other clients; please contact the vendor directly.” I know why they say that but their alleged great support doesn’t really match with that statement. But maybe I’ll take a simple screenshot and see if they’ll help.
Exactly. The benefits of Protonmail (it’s security) are kind of pointless unless the people you’re talking to are equally as secure. And it’s UI leaves a lot to be desired.
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I agree their app looks a bit “old”. But it is updated very regularly and getting better.
But I mainly us their bridge solution for the mac, and use the regular email app there.
I really like the way I can use security features like SPF, DKIM, DMARC etc. to protect my email, and for my needs Protonmail gives me plenty of bang for my buck
About google: I do not understand the comment. No encrypted email that I send via protonmail can ever be decripted by Google. If I send a normal email the transport is secure, but email is readable by any email server, that has nothing to do with google.
Watching this thread with interest. I’m a current Gmail user, but looking to extricate myself from Google completely:
- Apple’s own Mail server (
@icloud.comemail addresses):- Pro: Free
- Con: Server-side features are very limited (limited filters, etc).
- ProtonMail, FastMail
- Pro: Better server-side features
- Con: Not free
I use Protonmail as well, since it runs in Mailmate 
Not sure about it being friendly with Mailchimp, though (especially in case of large newsletters).
As far as email provider goes, I agree with others about using FastMail. They are the best, most reliable and most secure overall service at a price that is about the same as one Latte a month. Well worth the money.
However your newsletter getting caught up in spam filters and so on isn’t so much of an issue on your end. Many email clients use filters that separate newsletters to a separate section that the recipient may not get around to checking or they just filter them straight to junk mail.
You should probably advise your email list recipients that if they are not receiving your newsletter and they wish to, to go in to their spam filter setting and white list your email address so the emails are received rather that being filtered out.
Also, if they use a client that prioritizes their inbox, remind them to check the newsletter section to find your emails.
If you are willing to pay I would also look at Office365 Exchange from Microsoft. If you want features, it’s kind of hard to find more and it’s getting enterprise e-mail product. It’s not using your data at all, and it includes a ton of store through One Drive for Business if you want to use it.
Fastmail is great as well as I pointed out above. Difference will be how you want to use it.
A year or so ago Australia passed a bill which required servers in there country to have a back door for the government link. I remember a lot of people saying they were thinking about leaving Fastmail because of it. Has anything changed on that front?
I read the Australian law was written at the behest of the U.S and Great Britain. Whether this is true or not, it is just a matter of time until governments get legal access to all of our data.
To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin ". . . in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes, and a total lack of privacy.
I have a Protonmail account, but I probably won’t renew b/c I got a deal and don’t want to pay full price for my family to add on to the service. I’ll link to a post I replied to earlier this year about my mail provider, which I don’t see too many people use or recommend, but I have been happy with them for the last 4 years, Looking for a Web/email hosting service
Absolutely love Fastmail. Their service is super fast, very reliable, and amazing customer support. Plus they’re constantly adding new features and their iOS app is very nice. I still think I prefer Apple Mail on iOS, but I love the Fastmail web mail and use that exclusively on my mac.
I’ve spent the last year de-googling myself and moving from Gmail to Fastmail was a breeze. If I could only get my family to move, I could extract myself from Google Calendar and be completely Google free.