Here’s the reply I made on this YouTube reveiw:
I’ve not noticed any stablity problems with touching the iPad screen. Mine is very stable and does not ‘bounce.’ I’m not experiencing anything like you are presenting. Maybe the unit you picked up was looser?
BTW, the Logitech Combo Touch Keyboard Case was available in my Apple Store the same day of 1st availability of the iPad Pro M4 (May 15) for $229.59, $70 less. I bought it and the Magic Keyboard and tested them at home, liking both. But, I went with the Magic Keyboard because I use a lapdesk sitting on the couch a lot with my iPad and the kickstand flap of the Logitech case would easily slide over the upper edge of my lapdesk, allowing it to fall off easily. The solid base of the Magick Keyboard did not and provided much better stablilty. So, I went with it!
Thanks for the great review. I’m appreciating the 6 or 7 good differences you pointed out before you went to your rant.
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Thank you for your feedback, @Bmosbacker, @ChrisUpchurch, @brookter, and @bpsooner! For some reason, this seemed really easy to trigger in the Apple Store with models on display, but I’m not sure if I would have noticed it had I not watched that video before. I’m not worried about the iPad tipping over, but I do sometimes like tapping with the pencil instead of using my fingers so perhaps he exaggerated that situation in the video. I’m still probably going to get the MK.
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I liked the old MK, but the new one is nicer still. In fact, most of the reason why I bought the M4 rather than the Air (apart from ooh shiny and self-indulgence), was the new keyboard.
In use, it is just as good as my MBP keyboard, which is the best laptop keyboard I’ve used (and yes, I have used Thinkpads).
The only complaint I have is nothing to do with the keyboard itself, but that iPadOS doesn’t allow you to do the sort of key swapping that I do on MacOS (e.g. dual mapping – Caps Lock -> Control when held, Escape when tapped; Return -> Control when held, Return when tapped). This means that I’m forever getting New line a when I meant Ctrl A…
I recognise this a niche concern… (and applies to any external keyboard anyway).
I hope you like it!
I do this all the time with no issues at all. I “tap,” I don’t slam my pencil against the screen 
Go to the store and tap away at the screen as you usually would before you buy. That should alleviate any concerns you have.
Speaking of the Magic Keyboard: how do folks deal with the “put it on, take it off, put it on, take it off” practice it requires if you’re doing any sketching while typing?
I rarely use my Magic Keyboard (when I do rarely use my iPad) because my main use-case is typically reading/annotating and drawing ideas/sketching/brainstorming/diagramming. Often, though, while I’m doing those things, I do have to type, which means I either have to pull up the on screen keyboard (clumsy) or reattach the iPad to the Magic Keyboard, type something brief, then pop it off again (which feels stuttered). Or another approach I’ve taken is to flip the whole device over, keyboard attached, for sketching (such that the keyboard is hanging upside-down above the iPad) — this is pretty awkward, as I’m flipping it back and forth.
When working this way, I reminisce about the various Tablet PCs I’ve owned, all of which were able to lie flat while still using the keyboard. The new Surface Pro’s keyboard even has a battery, so you can disconnect the keyboard wholesale and still use it for typing:
(This kind of set-up is something I’ve done with iPads and tablet PCs before, it just required carrying around a bluetooth keyboard. It would be ideal to have the snap-on keyboard work this way instead.)
The pop-on pop-off UX of using the Magic Keyboard while writing/drawing with the Pencil is uncharacteristically inelegant for Apple, so I feel like I’m missing something.
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I have the same type of workflow where I go from 
to 
and have three possible solutions for you on this. I don’t love to repeatedly pop-off-and-pop-on, because if I’m in Pencil mode, I usually want my Magic Keyboard out of sight. So, when I’m annotating and want to input typed comments I use…
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scribble - which works beautifully at converting my writing to text. I still don’t have a good handle, though, on some things. For example, getting all text on the same line, inserting a new line, more complex edits. Whether that’s user error or scribble limitations, I do not know. But I know the limitations and switch to a different mode if need be.
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the compact, floating keyboard - this works great for me as an adjunct to using scribble. I use it to make edits to scribble text or in place of Scribble if I’m having trouble. Or sometimes I just use it instead of scribble. For example, if I have a large block of text.
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the Mac keyboard when using Universal Control. This works only if you are using a multi-device set up. I primarily use a combination of 1 and 2 above, but when I have a set up where I can use UC, this has enabled a nice way to go from pencil to keyboard more seamlessly and also is more like what you had with a tablet PC.
In fact if you have this last setup, you could get a stand like this to move your iPad around from an additional display to a drawing tablet without keyboard switching:
If you are not tied to Magic Keyboard, I throw in one last option:
Bluetooth keyboard - if your iPad is connected to a Bluetooth keyboard, you can use it almost exactly like the old tablet PCs. This is not a solution if you (like me) use the Magic Keyboard. But I have had my iPad connected to an external display using a keyboard and mouse. Then, even when my iPad is off the stand, I can type from the keyboard.
More generally, the problem seems to be switching from handwriting to typing is just an awkward thing. Think of going from notepad to computer. One has to ditch one’s pen, orient oneself to the keyboard, and start typing away. I almost always hold my pen in my mouth when having to go to a keyboard. Boorish, perhaps, but it’s a testament to the challenge of going from one mode to another.
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Thanks for the thorough write-up. Indeed, these are largely options that I’ve tried. The best of them, in my experience, is definitely “bluetooth keyboard next to/lying flat connected to writing/drawing tablet,” so it’s a shame that the Magic Keyboard is not an option for that set-up.
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So, I just received my 13" iPad Pro today and I got really impressed by Quick Start. Is the migration tool really that good?
Apparently I have nothing to do and I’m already off to the races? All my settings for the device and numerous apps have been transferred?
I really have nothing to do apart from deleting a few Apple apps that got re-installed automatically? (And well, signing in to a few accounts as well.)
Also, something felt off with the Apple Pencil Pro at first. Turns out its tip wasn’t fully screwed. Sigh of relief. (I didn’t know you could remove it.)
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didn’t know you could remove it.
They can get lost or damaged. I have several spare tips for when I need to replace one.
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And when they get damaged, they can scratch the display — as happened to me once. (Thankfully I was visiting Toronto at the time and they replaced the whole iPad at the Apple Store then and there.)
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Chromatic aberration from my glasses can be worse on the OLED than the microLED. The yellow sliding out of the Messages icon is most noticeable. Crude artist’s rendition of how it looks when I look at straight at the iPad out of the right corner of my eye:
When actually using the iPad it’s just a bit of fuzziness in my peripheral vision.
I hadn’t really thought about it before, but that’s a significant advantage of using a separate Bluetooth keyboard over one that attaches to the iPad.
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Do you know if the new Apple Pencil Pro uses the same tips as the previous models?
Yes. Same tips.
since I need 20 characters, I would like to say, good day everyone!
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On the whole Apple Pencil issue 
, I’d just like to share that there was a brief timeframe on Friday when I actually had all of them: Apple Pencil 1 (returned to Apple on this store visit for recycling), Apple Pencil 2 (used with the 3rd & 5th gen Pros, now to be used with the mini), Apple Pencil USB-C (bought for and used with the mini for the past couple of months as I just occasionally needed a pencil there, and not sure what to do with it now, but will probably be keeping it as a spare) and the Apple Pencil Pro. 
I’m not exactly feeling great reflecting on the fact that I spent some €500 on Apple Pencils over the years…
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Quinn nails it again. Perfectly said.
He’s wrong about so many things, it’s hard to watch this. He is right about a bunch, but the things he’s wrong about are so misleading that they drown out his point. I’ll give some examples. He complains fiercely about how impossible it is to get to the dock to appear on an external display when apps are in full screen. It’s easy: Globe-A; or hold the trackpad cursor at the bottom of the external display for a moment.
Here’s a second, opening apps on stage manager is so easy, it’s trivial. It just doesn’t work the way he wants. If you click an app by itself, it will open on a stage by itself. That’s true, and he got that right. (It was the source of his complaint.) If you want to open it on the same stage, you drag the app into the stage from the dock, from the App Library, from the recent apps panel on the left of the screen, or from Spotlight, or use the 3-dot menu and “add another app” or press Globe+Ctrl+Up arrow. He complained on X, i believe, that you can’t open the app you want when you add another window [EDIT] unless it’s in the Dock otherwise you have to scroll through open apps in the app switcher. Again, he’s wrong. If the additional app you want is not available in the Dock, you don’t have to scroll through the App Switcher panel. What you do is click on any open space on the App Switcher screen, which will reveal the Home Screen. Then (1) select any app on the Home Screen, (2) use Spotlight, or (3) use the App Library. Honestly, it could not be easier short of iPadOS being able to read your mind.
App expose also works: Globe+down arrow; or press the app icon and all windows of the app show up on the left side of the screen. But, unlike the Mac, it will only show all windows in the current screen.
“Open in” functionality also works fine from the Files App by using the Share Sheet. I know some people refer to it as a dumpster fire, but why? If I want to open a document that three or four apps could open, I press the share sheet. Swipe left until I find the app I want, or press the three dot menu in the share sheet to see the rest of the apps that I could use. Why is that any harder than the “open in” menu on the Mac? It doesn’t take longer to do it that way. I know, I’ve timed myself.
He’s certainly right, that some things are harder to do than they should be. But if you are going to make a video criticizing things for not working, you owe it to your viewers to make sure those things really don’t work.
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