Roam vs. Obsidian: A 30-day Reflection

Future-preparing via Obsidian’s Outliner plug-in?

Although I’ve been all in with Obsidian for many months now, after having been all in with Roam for many months prior to that, I keep on thinking that in the future I’ll want certain features that accompany the block-level granularity that outliners like Roam have. Therefore, I’ve installed in Obsidian the Outliner plug-in and have been taking lots of my recent notes in outline mode.

Being no computer whiz, I don’t know whether that’s sufficient for significantly increasing the likelihood that my Obsidian files could be read by an outlining app. It seems it is if the outlining app is Logseq, which replicates a lot of Roam’s functionality and can read the same folder of Markdown files that constitutes my Obsidian vault.

But, alas, the block-level links (and transclusions) I create in Obsidian don’t port over when I open my files in Logseq. I’m hoping the Logseq and Obsidian developers could settle on some sort of universal code for transclusions that would make the portability of block-level links/transclusions just as standard as the portability of page links. But again, not being a computer whiz, I have to ask: would making this a reality be just a matter of the developers making certain decisions or are their hands tied because of the different code they’re using?

Btw, I started learning to code a couple of weeks ago. At the rate I’m going, I should be able to answer my own question in about a decade. But I’d rather not wait that long.

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How does Logseq deal with blocks at the moment? I.e., what does a “blocked” piece of text look like?

Not so sure this will answer your question, but blocks in Logseq look the way they do in Roam. Here’s a quick video on Loom of me clicking on a block in Logseq (accidentally recorded some Yo La Tengo when making it). I guess I’ll just add that when you create a Logseq vault or graph or whatever they call it, you have the option of using either Markdown or Org mode files. I use the former.

But I’m not answering your question, am I?

Ha, you’re trying, so that counts for something.

When you create a block link in Logseq, does it do anything to the line you’re linking to?

That’s the only way it would be cross-compatible with Obsidian. Otherwise there must be some database backend keeping track of Logseq links—making it harder for Obsidian to use them.

Oh, what’s a block link in Logseq look like. As you can see below, it’s a wee bit longer than the ones used in Obsidian.

Now get to work creating a plug-in that will fix everything, Ryan! I have all or most of your Obsidian plug-ins installed. Just waiting for you to create this one.

UPDATE: Oops. Forgot to point out that no, nothing is added to the block that is linked to in Logseq. That long string seen above is no where to be found when I go to the block it links to.

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Resurrecting an old thread to ask, do you still need to do the Edit/Preview dance in Obsidian or have they fixed it yet? Also is paying $10 a month the only way to sync across devices? seem to recall an alternative way where the vault was in the cloud…

Thanks for any info

As noted in other threads here:

  • Obsidian last month introduced an early beta version of “live preview” to its supporter customers. I think the beta is going well – the feature should be generally available soon if it isn’t already.
  • iCloud Drive sync is an optional method of syncing with mobile, if you do not want to use Obsidian sync.
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Thanks @anon41602260, it’s hard to keep up!

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