UPDATE-more context: Please do! “Apple to shorten 'Hey Siri'”

The Wife of a college has the nickname “Alexa” for more than 30 years, until they got one of this Amazon Speakers as a Birthday “Present”.
They ended with the choice of changing her nickname or throwing the Present away…

They could have just picked one of the other keywords, such as “Echo…”

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I don’t know, if they were aware of that, but anyway, they returned it, when they also became aware at this time, that Amazon Employees were listening to everything that was talked about in the vicinity of the speaker.

True, but Siri frequently responds to a lot of similar words. I’d rather Apple keeps the Hey and instead work on having Siri respond to follow up questions. My other digital assistant has this capability and it’s very useful.

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You will get annoyed, if you ask someone in your household “Hey, did you bring the groceries with you?”, and always gets a response like: “Sorry, I could not help you on that” from your Phone/Watch/Speaker…

Serious question, why do you think it would be a great change?

What problem(s) would this solve for you?

Personally I don’t see the value in spending development resources on this.

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Siri has been annoying me for years. I keep “Hey Siri” turned off on my Mac and iPP, and always keep my phone face down. All that’s left is my big HomePod upstairs and a HomePod mini. They aren’t as bright as iPhone Siri but I only use them to control the lights (and I airplay music to the HomePod)

Since the day I first heard David Sparks say it, I have longed to bellow “Ahoy, Telephone” at my iDevices instead of “Hey Siri.”

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Can’t wait for the next Apple commercial touting the power of Siri to randomly fire all the HomePods in my home. Seriously though I feel like this is a bad idea unless they have some sort of way to prevent accidental activation of Siri to begin listening to commands.

Even at this “advance” stage of Siri development, it gets randomly activated when I’m… wait for it… streaming non-English speaking JAPANESE VARIETY SHOWS. (I can’t post a specific example because these are streamed vpn - if I find a workaround and an example I’ll post it).

Perhaps Apple can forgive my lack of faith this one instance?

I hope this leads to custom trigger phrases.

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I hope that Apple doesn’t shorten “Hey Siri” to “Siri”…and if they do make this change that they at least provide a setting that retains the original “Hey Siri” trigger. Among other things, I have a friend with “Siri” in his name.

There are many problems with this that I identified, and @Ulli came up with one that trumps all mine.

  1. There are already significant false activations with “Hey Siri”. Shortening it to just “Siri” will only increase that.
  2. There are people called Siri (I worked with one many years ago, and this feature is named after another) who would go from being annoyed to downright hacked off by a change like this.
  3. If the only problem is “it sounds odd” or “it’s two whole words” then it’s not a big enough problem to be solving, especially given the two points above.

I would support a one word command only if it would attack my first two points. One could, for instance, change it to “GRUNTFURTLE!” and that’d be absolutely fine.

Otherwise, we could annoy podcasters by changing it to “Hey Dingus!” :laughing:

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Not strictly true. By design Amazon speakers - like the others - only send audio to Amazon servers when the keyword has been activated. That has been tested relentlessly over the years and is integral to the design.

If you were part of the customer experience improvement programme then humans did review a sample of participants’ recordings to detect why the AI failed to comprehend the words spoken.

As far as I understand, at least outside of Europe, you are always “part” of this program, unless you opt-out actively.
And there are still reports of people getting adds about things, they had talked about in front of Alexa, but without knowingly activating the device.

Ha ha! You said “Sirious”

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UPDATE: This story provides more context around this matter.

For very small values of “more”. :slight_smile:

My prior question still stands (without the pun this time): what problem does this solve?

I’m just not seeing it. And making it a rebranding, “Siri, new and improved”, as the CNN piece implies, is waisting development resources on marketing fluff, IMHO.

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I’m not sure there is a problem to solve. I just fine “hey” to be an odd language. As I pointed out previously, when I used echo devices (I no longer do), it was easy to just say “Alexa”, no prefix required and I never encountered an issue. But, in the grand scheme of things this is merely a minor annoyance, nothing of consequence unless Apple sees it as important for improving Siri. I have no opinion on that matter.

Beside, I never heard Jean-Luc-Picard say “Hey Computer.” :grin:

Me neither, but how many friends named “Computer” do you think he had? :slight_smile:

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Data? :blush: And, I’ve never heard someone called “Siri.” In fact, I’d guess that “Alexa” is far more common.

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