Apparently Arc is available for anyone now:
I still think Orion is a more interesting ānewā browser, especially because itās webkit-based instead of chromium, but I have to admit the marketing behind Arc is second-to-none right now and thatās probably why itās generating all the hype. Arc does have some really cool features and the design is great though.
Orion seems interesting: sb did a comparison on the power consumption.
https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/12cgydn/chrome_vs_arc_vs_safari_vs_orion_vs_firefox/
1Password still doesnāt seem to work in it correctly for me and never has.
This makes it unusable, for me.
And because the UI is totally āmac-assedā. Still, Arc beats it in terms of feeling like a more finished, polished product, but I feel like the UI wastes too much space in the sidebar. If only Orion had proper tab folders instead of only nested tabsā¦ (it seems to be planned).
The new 1Password extension should work in it, but I can confirm that the 1Password 7 āclassicā extension does not. (And since I have no intention of moving away from 1P7 and its standalone vault, Iām stuck working around that.)
Iāve been wishing and begging for Arc to have tree style/nested tabs, but so far to no avail. Unfortunately, in trying to use Arc, Iāve quickly and repeatedly discovered that due to my browsing style (coming from a decade or more of Firefox + Tree Style Tabs extension), thatās a showstopper for me. I get hopelessly lost in my pile of tabs in Arc. So, Iāve settled on using Arc for casual or āthrowawayā browsing and use Firefox for doing real long-term work.
Maybe if enough people point at Orionās nested-tab implementation in Arc feature requests, theyāll be swayed.
There are a couple of weird little things about Arc Iām not crazy about, but so far the good outweighs the bad. Since I have the same problem as you (overwhelmed by tabs sometimes ), can you share which Firefox extensions you find indispensable (other than Tree Style Tabs )?
Yes, it is currently on their roadmap. There is not really any expectations on when this will be done, as the feedback forum is swamped with other bug reports and feature requests. Building a browser --even if you have the rendering engine-- is harder than it seems!
Edit: noticed that you were referring that you preferred nested tabs in Arc, not tab groups in Orion. Seems like Orion would serve you better.
In Firefox I think that Sideberry is more usable than other plugins. Sadly, I havenāt found a way to sync tab groups and panels across machines.
TST is actually the only tab-related extension I use. Thereās probably more I could do to wrangle them a bit better, but for me itās mainly about being able to structure my open tabs using that nested hierarchy. Eventually (and sometimes it takes far too long) I finish with the tabs and either close them out or archive the material elsewhere and then close them out. (And having them in trees makes it easy to close a bunch at once: just collapse the tree and close the parent tab!)
Iām curious to hear what extensions others suggest, though.
Trying Arc again (previous attempt was last October).
Since the last time, I experimented a lot with tab groups, profiles and similar things with both Chrome and Edge. I liked Tab Groups in Edge better than Chrome, but reverted for reasons I donāt remember.
This time, after installing Arc and going through the setup screens, when I set up tab groups all of the web sites I use that have logins (most of them) opened up as already logged in. I havenāt had to log on to any site yet. Itās like it imported cookies including the current state. Every time Chrome updates it seems Iām forced to log in and do the whole 2FA rigamarole, so not having to do it was nice. Having become more familiar w/ profiles and tab groups the Arc way of doing things seemed less foreign. I do wish they had more choices for group icons, but not really a dealbreaker. Havenāt explored ālittle Arcā very much yet but that seems interesting.
Little Arc is one of the main things I use Arc forāand the reason Iāve set it as my default browser. Itās a great quick and simple ālanding spotā for any links that open from elsewhere (including unexpectedly) that makes it easy to either move it into something more persistent or dispense with it and return right to what I was looking at before.
yeah, I noticed that it uses Little Arc when opening links from emails - very handy for unsubscribing or quick confirmation things. I really like this feature!
Just made one change which makes more sense to me - dropped the use of āSpacesā and just organized my most-used sites by category using Folders. Seems more intuitive.
Just made one change which makes more sense to me - dropped the use of āSpacesā and just organized my most-used sites by category using Folders
I have four spaces in Arc, three of which are tied to specific profiles. This makes it possible to, for example, be logged into different Google accounts in different spaces. I colour-coded the spaces so itās visually obvious which one Iām in.
I keep almost all of my bookmarks in Anybox, making switching browsers easy. I use Arcās Pin Tab feature (āD) for things Iām actively working on (e.g. a Google Doc) that I want to be able to jump to quickly and donāt want to be cleared automatically.
The main problem I have with pinned tabs is that theyāre essentially stuck on whatever page you pinned them with. Meaning, if you browse to another page on that pinned tab, it will reset back to the original page if you ever quit Arc and then reopen it. Pinned tabs also donāt preserve the tabās browsing history, so you canāt hit the back button on any of them once youāve pinned it and then ended the browsing session. Thatās fine for something like a specific Google Doc, but less ideal for a āsaving my placeā sort of use.
When clicking on a link in a pinned tab, the link will open in a regular tab if you hold down the ā key. Sometimes I also temporarily unpin a tab (using āD) and repin it when Iāve arrived at a location that I want to pin.
Thereās also right click > Pinned URL > Replace pinned URL with current. I use that for documentation Iām working through. Admittedly itās clunky, though. Iād like to see the option to set pinned tabs to live update (sort of like the UI for websites in easels with the pause button.)
I actually prefer the static current implementation for my workflow. To each their own I guess. They could add it as a preference setting perhaps.
They do have those and I use them frequently. Are we not talking about the same thing? I am referring to the pinned folders as I can create subfolders, etc.