Passwords vs 1Password

Ok, who’s been brave enough to migrate off 1password to Passwords? Experience? Functionality?

Asking as 1P seems to be getting clunky for my use case.

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I exported all of my 1 Password passwords to Apple Passwords. I will spend the next several months using Apple Passwords exclusively and making any corrections that are needed. If I’m convinced that it will meet my needs, I will cancel my subscription to 1Password so far, it has been fine, but it’s only been two days.

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I did a trial run on Passwords from 1P and it worked pretty well. I just ran into too many features that I liked and wanted on 1Password. If all you need are passwords, it’s great. If you want more from it, you’re better off with 1Password.

Some reasons I stayed with 1Password

  • Cross-platform compatibility
  • Quick view on macOS
  • Additional item storage (license keys, license files, credit cards, etc)
  • Linked items
  • Security question generation
  • Masked emails with Fastmail

One app I just learned about was Access to pair with Passwords. This helps fill in some of the gaps. Almost mandatory IMO. I posted about it here.

It looks much better than using Apple Notes like Simon Storving did.

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Do you use any passkeys? That is now a roadblock from me ever moving back since I can’t migrate those, they’re all tied to 1Password.

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I think I may have 4-5. I’ve not run into many sites that offer them.

I am really tempted to try it … as I think it would fit mine and my wife’s needs. The one reason I’m hesitant about that is that I put all my eggs in one basket and solely rely on my Apple password and all that stuff to be and stay safe. As far as I have seen one cannot set a different/separate password for the passwords app, can you?

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Another item I think missing from Passwords is password history. I’ve had to resort to that in 1Password more times than I want to admit.

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I was going to give it a try until I heard Myke and Jason talking about it on Upgrade. And it seems like Passwords gets befuddle more than the “brute force” (their words, but I experience the same) effort of 1Password. Basically 1Password works on more sites/applications and plays nicer with credit card input.

So I’ll be keeping an eye on Passwords, but I can’t switch the family over until it can basically be just as reliable as 1Password in varying settings.

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I’m going to move to Passwords for the opposite reason. I think I can get my family to use Passwords. 1password was a big lift.

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Passkeys can’t be migrated (yet) but almost all sites that support passkeys allow you to create several.

For pure convenience, I now have a passkey stored in Bitwarden (my main password manager) and one in iCloud Keychain/Passwords for each site where I use them.

This does not require much more additional work as long as you remember to create both when activating them. I’m using both in parallel as I’ve found that sometimes one is better integrated with the system (e.g. Bitwarden passkeys work more conveniently for me in Arc and Chromium browsers using the Bitwarden extension).

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See here for a list of sites that support them. Sometimes the option is a bit hidden. Also, at some sites they can be used as the “hardware security key”.

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Thanks, this is helpful!

I want to migrate to Passwords, too. I am happy with 1P, just want to eliminate another subscription (I’m on ~ €20 per month this year on average, down from €80).

It’s not really about the money, more like a bad habit, subbing to a new nice to have app while you can do what you need do with free or one-time purchase alternatives. Of course 1Password is more than a nice to have app. However, since I protect my Apple account with hardware keys and advanced protection, I feel more confident using Apple Passwords.

Unfortunately, for work I rely on the 1Password SSH agent to sign commits or authentication to repositories and other accounts. It has proven to be very convenient. I will defo trial Apple Passwords for a bit, see how it works out.

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I have created three. Of those I only use one and I still need 2FA. I checked the passkeys directory posted by @dario, and a couple of others, and I have more items in my 1Password vault than sites that offer passkeys.

So far I’ve only found one regional US bank and one US credit union that offers passkeys. At this rate it will take decades for passkeys to become commonplace.

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Setting them both up at the same time is not bad, but it does add time to switching when migrating. You must login to each site and setup a new passkey. I’ve taken a similar approach to you in having multiple passkeys for the sites that allow it. I’m split between 1Password and physical Yubikeys. While I appreciate the convenience of 1Password, I like the external keys for agnostic access. Of course 1Password is then locked down by the Yubikeys as well.

I’ve been using Apple Passwords for a couple of days now. I like it. Better yet, I think I can get my wife to use it. She was always confused by 1PW. I suspect many more people will use Passwords who otherwise would never use a password manager.

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I was thinking the same thing. My spouse would NOT use 1P no matter how much I tried showing them how easy it was. :man_shrugging:

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In his recent Macworld article Dan Moran weighs in on Passwords, as well as other things in iOS 18,

Here’s an edited excerpt:

In its latest platform updates, Apple promoted its Passwords feature from a mere preference pane to a full-blown app. . . . But it feels like Passwords could be a handy place to store other types of information too. For example, credit cards. . . . but if you go to look at your saved cards there you’ll see it divided up into items in your Wallet (the Apple Card and Apple Cash) and other saved cards.

Frankly, it’s confusing. I get that I usually want to autofill my credit cards on the web—for places that don’t use Apple Pay, anyway—but having everything in the same place would make matters much simpler. . .

It feels like Apple could use the new Passwords app to unify privacy data stored across the system . . .

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I’m wondering whether I’m missing something. Other than making it a separate app and giving it a home screen icon, is Passwords really all that different from Passkeys? It still seems mostly an Apple-only solution. Even for those who expect to only ever use Apple devices, are there extensions now for chromium browsers and Firefox?

There is one for Firefox (and probably also for Chrome):

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